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[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

Let's do this for the offseason, see if we can't create our own little niche here. Next year we'll start this right with the other Jets/Giants threads.

First up on the offseason checklist...head coach (hopefully Fisher).

Edited by Hi, I'm VALUE!, 11 January 2012 - 04:19 PM.

[CRASHER]

Robert Griffin declares eligible for the draft....that's a plus and a step too....

Fisher is taking his sweet-ass time ain't he?

[MadDog2020]

Robert Griffin declares eligible for the draft....that's a plus and a step too....

Fisher is taking his sweet-ass time ain't he?

I think Fisher is waiting for the inevitable firing of Jim Caldwell, and then the fvcking Colts will hire him. They just hired a GM today, so I'm starting to think he played both the Fins and the Rams. If we don't get Fisher, I'm hoping for Mike Zimmer.

[Daniel]

I think Fisher is waiting for the inevitable firing of Jim Caldwell, and then the fvcking Colts will hire him. They just hired a GM today, so I'm starting to think he played both the Fins and the Rams. If we don't get Fisher, I'm hoping for Mike Zimmer.

Notice how that decision that the Miami Herald said was coming today is still pending.

[MadDog2020]

Notice how that decision that the Miami Herald said was coming today is still pending.

Exactly. I find that to be a bit off.

[gogonjdevil]

At this point I don't even think I want Fisher. If he can't decide on the Phins with out reservations...it could have Sabanesque repercussions. Also, I think RGIII being eligible means absolutely nothing to the Phins. He'll go EARLY and we're not going to mortgage the farm to get him. Especially considering how good Moore did this year. I have a feeling we're more likely to end up with Peyton or Flynn then get RGIII.

If Fisher backs out, I want Cowher or Gruden. Someone with a more proven record than an assistant.

[MadDog2020]

At this point I don't even think I want Fisher. If he can't decide on the Phins with out reservations...it could have Sabanesque repercussions. Also, I think RGIII being eligible means absolutely nothing to the Phins. He'll go EARLY and we're not going to mortgage the farm to get him. Especially considering how good Moore did this year. I have a feeling we're more likely to end up with Peyton or Flynn then get RGIII.

If Fisher backs out, I want Cowher or Gruden. Someone with a more proven record than an assistant.

Cowher and Gruden aren't coaching next season, that much is clear. I wondered if they were telling the truth when they both said they wanted to stay in TV, but it appears they were. They haven't even been mentioned as possibilities anywhere other than the speculation about the Fins job before the season ended. With the possibilty of there being more attractive jobs open next year like San Diego, Dallas, or Philly, I think both of them are definitely sitting it out another year. In Cowher's case, it seems like he could be done with coaching for good based on what he's said before.

Edited by MadDog2020, 12 January 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[estreetcrew3]

O yeah Nice thread! Come on Ross get us a coach!

[Daniel]

Looks like Fisher to the Rams. Oh well, we'll get some random offensive coordinator to be head coach who will be dismissed after two years.

[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

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I'm starting to dislike Jeff Ireland...

There's a couple of other guys that are looking to get their shot, including Zimmer from CIN and the Bears Special Teams coach. But it sounds like Ireland wouldn't budge any power and it cost the team Fisher.

[Daniel]

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I'm starting to dislike Jeff Ireland...

There's a couple of other guys that are looking to get their shot, including Zimmer from CIN and the Bears Special Teams coach. But it sounds like Ireland wouldn't budge any power and it cost the team Fisher.

I've never liked Ireland, especially since the time that he wasted a second round pick on Pat White. Outside of drafting Jake Long, the guy hasn't done anything.

[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

I've never liked Ireland, especially since the time that he wasted a second round pick on Pat White. Outside of drafting Jake Long, the guy hasn't done anything.

I can't hate too much, considering that we can put all the pieces together probably with a QB, NT, and pass-rushing specialist (mind you, neither of the first two is easy to find...). He's a dick of a human being, but this team is not so far off from competing (like, say, Jacksonville or Cleveland)

[gogonjdevil]

Fisher was the dick if you asked me. I don't care what reports leak out with Schefter...he used the Phins to leverage more money.

I'm not as big an Ireland hater as most. I think Long, Moore, Bush and Marshall are pretty good acquisitions/draft picks. Sure Pat White was a dud, but John Beck and Chad Henne weren't exactly superstars either. We have a long history of throwing away draft picks, especially in the second round. I'm still not 100% sold on Daniel Thomas. (and while INCREDIBLY inappropriate, I find the whole Bryant Prostitute thing hysterical)

That being said, it really sucks balls that for the 2nd year in a row a top tier coach has completely dissed us to coach somewhere else. Sadly this is gonna end up with us having another mediocre season going nowhere.

[estreetcrew3]

There is a curse between us and the 2nd round draft picks!!!. Besides those awful pick I feel he brought in some really good players. Def love that he brought in Wake.

[MadDog2020]

Maybe it's a good thing we didn't get Fisher- he just hired Brian Schottenheimer as his offensive coordinator lol.

[MantaRay]

Maybe it's a good thing we didn't get Fisher- he just hired Brian Schottenheimer as his offensive coordinator lol.

With Fishers D and Schottenheimers O talents, the West is going to be a tough place in the next few years. Great move by Fisher. Bradford, Lloyd, and Jackson will have career years with Schottenheimer. St Louis will be a great place for both coaches and both know you win games at the line of scrimmage and players that want to win.

Edited by MantaRay, 16 January 2012 - 11:29 AM.

[MadDog2020]

With Fishers D and Schottenheimers O talents, the West is going to be a tough place in the next few years. Great move by Fisher. Bradford, Lloyd, and Jackson will have career years with Schottenheimer. St Louis will be a great place for both coaches and both know you win games at the line of scrimmage and players that want to win.

We shall see. I think it would be hilarious if Schottenheimer turned out to be a good OC out there- it would really piss off the Jet fans that much more lol. I'm on the Mike Zimmer train- give me Zimmer as the HC, Todd Bowles as the DC, and Hue Jackson as the OC and I would be very happy.

[Beezer34]

We shall see. I think it would be hilarious if Schottenheimer turned out to be a good OC out there- it would really piss off the Jet fans that much more lol. I'm on the Mike Zimmer train- give me Zimmer as the HC, Todd Bowles as the DC, and Hue Jackson as the OC and I would be very happy.

Look no further than the pedestrian numbers that Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, and Brett Favre all put up while working under Schottenheimer, to understand what kind of an OC he really is. --garbage! Brian Schottenheimer got his fame due to the nepotism of his Father.. nothing more. Again, and not to beat a dead horse, the Jets offense during the 7 seasons under Schottenheimer? --average 22nd ranked overall in the league! (and that's with a boatload of weapons during that span) If Schotty didn't have the luxury of working with a LaDainian Tomlinson in his prime for 4 years in San Diego, he never would have gotten as far as the Jets in 2006. He would've went back to playing with himself in Syracuse.

..as a Jet fan, next season can't come soon enough.. for a number of reasons.

"..I asked Tony Sparano how many times the word "Wildcat" came up when he met with Rex. He laughed. "Good question!" he said."
http://twitter.com/#!/rodboone/status/157905528595546112

Edited by Beezer34, 16 January 2012 - 02:27 PM.

[MadDog2020]

Look no further than the pedestrian numbers that Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, and Brett Favre all put up while working under Schottenheimer, to understand what kind of an OC he really is. --garbage! Brian Schottenheimer got his fame due to the nepotism of his Father.. nothing more. Again, and not to beat a dead horse, the Jets offense during the 7 seasons under Schottenheimer? --average 22nd ranked overall in the league! (and that's with a boatload of weapons during that span) If Schotty didn't have the luxury of working with a LaDainian Tomlinson in his prime for 4 years in San Diego, he never would have gotten as far as the Jets in 2006. He would've went back to playing with himself in Syracuse.

..as a Jet fan, next season can't come soon enough.. for a number of reasons.

"..I asked Tony Sparano how many times the word "Wildcat" came up when he met with Rex. He laughed. "Good question!" he said."
http://twitter.com/#!/rodboone/status/157905528595546112

The thing that sealed the deal for me was when he had Sanchez drop back to throw 64 times against the Giants. 64. I knew he was an idiot, but that was the ultimate confirmation of just what a clown Schottenheimer is as a play-caller.

[Hi, I'm VALUE!]

Dolphins meeting with Philbin a second time...and have scheduled re-interviews with Bowles and Mike McCoy

It also appears that Toub is out of the process, as Toub took a new deal with the Bears.

Zimmer I'm not sure about...he's not scheduled for a second interview yet, but sources claim his first interview was strong.

Edited by Hi, I'm VALUE!, 18 January 2012 - 02:13 PM.