jonnyd91 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 10 points in 48 game on an offensive minded team.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 And lets not forget, his 30 in 2011-12 were 3rd on the team behind Kovalchuk (37) and Parise (31). His 15 in 2012-13 made him number one on the team. Seeing as we don't have another 30 goal scorer, I see no basis for not taking him back IF they ate some of the contract as proposed. Dropping a one-time 30 goal scorer onto a team doesn't just add 30 goals to the team's total. We all see that with Ryder this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Dropping a one-time 30 goal scorer onto a team doesn't just add 30 goals to the team's total. We all see that with Ryder this year. This. If his game filled a void on this team, year, take him. It doesn't. He's probably better than Ruutu, but not as much as we think, and they're not that much different. If they were paid similar amounts (Clarkie a little more, but not much) and we could get rid of Ruutu, maybe Clarkson would come in handy. As it is, though, it would be a move to make a move, or a sentimental ex-Devil signing, just like all the moves we've flamed Lou for in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 hmm... I would trade some of the dead weight we currently have to have him back... I mean being how half of the forwards on this team are garbage anyway why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 He scored almost all those 15 goals in the first half half of a half season, then disappeared. By your logic then he is really a 60 goal scorer. At most I would expect him to score 10-15 goals a season and we have plenty of guys who do that. We need consistent 30+ goal scorers. Lol. I don't consider Clarkson a 30 goal scorer (15-20) but this is one of the most ridiculous posts of the year. It makes absolutely no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 To get Clarkson back, the Leafs would have to pick up half the salary and NJ would have to trade them Clowe, picking up 40% of his salary, and this deal would have to happen after July 1 so that Clarkson's yearly bonus is paid out already by the Leafs. That's the only way I consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 To get Clarkson back, the Leafs would have to pick up half the salary and NJ would have to trade them Clowe, picking up 40% of his salary, and this deal would have to happen after July 1 so that Clarkson's yearly bonus is paid out already by the Leafs. That's the only way I consider it. There you go, I'd do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 To get Clarkson back, the Leafs would have to pick up half the salary and NJ would have to trade them Clowe, picking up 40% of his salary, and this deal would have to happen after July 1 so that Clarkson's yearly bonus is paid out already by the Leafs. That's the only way I consider it. face it we're stuck with clowe. and his horrid contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 At this point, I'd rather just have Clowe. He's slow, but a better skater, he can pass (on purpose, not on missed wraparounds) and he doesn't spend all game staring at the officials. He's also put of several 50 point seasons. In a full 82 game season, he'd be on pace for 44 points this year, while Clarkson would be looking at around 17, and Clowe plays on an offensively inferior team. It looks like we already got the best of Clarkson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Lol. I don't consider Clarkson a 30 goal scorer (15-20) but this is one of the most ridiculous posts of the year. It makes absolutely no sense. How so? Others seem to comprehend it fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 face it we're stuck with clowe. and his horrid contract In the new system, almost no contracts are unmoveable because you can split the money. Clowe's contract with NJ picking up half would certainly move somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 How so? Others seem to comprehend it fine. Because you take the sample as is. You don't look for distribution throughout the sample. 30 goals scored in 82 games, all scored in the first 41 is the EXACT same thing as 30 goals scored throughout the season. That's the most basic rule of statistics. By your (non) logic Clarkson would not score 60 goals, he would score 30 goals in the first half of the season again. Which of course, also makes no sense statistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Because you take the sample as is. You don't look for distribution throughout the sample. 30 goals scored in 82 games, all scored in the first 41 is the EXACT same thing as 30 goals scored throughout the season. That's the most basic rule of statistics. By your (non) logic Clarkson would not score 60 goals, he would score 30 goals in the first half of the season again. Which of course, also makes no sense statistically. And you would see I was being sarcastic and doing what you are trying to do to me to the original poster who was insisting that Clarkson is a 30-goal scorer. But I still love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 And you would see I was being sarcastic and doing what you are trying to do to me to the original poster who was insisting that Clarkson is a 30-goal scorer. But I still love you. Love you too Dman but I do understand what you meant. I don't mean to say that you were serious about him being a 60 goal scorer, but that your assertion that HIS logic means Clarky would score 60, is illogical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Love you too Dman but I do understand what you meant. I don't mean to say that you were serious about him being a 60 goal scorer, but that your assertion that HIS logic means Clarky would score 60, is illogical. hmmmm touche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Love you too Dman but I do understand what you meant. I don't mean to say that you were serious about him being a 60 goal scorer, but that your assertion that HIS logic means Clarky would score 60, is illogical. In fact, if you were to adopt that theory, anyone who scores opening night is an 82 goal scorer, and if he drops in two, he is smashing all kinds of records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 In fact, if you were to adopt that theory, anyone who scores opening night is an 82 goal scorer, and if he drops in two, he is smashing all kinds of records. Wrong. That's too small of a sample size. This is getting ridiculous, there's no argument here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Wrong. That's too small of a sample size. This is getting ridiculous, there's no argument here. That was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 That was my point. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEWHistory Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 You mean, 15 goal scorer. That 30 goal season was the definition of a fluke, to expect him to do it again is just wishful thinking. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Ah yes, but as not only a Devils but a NYJets fan, I am by definition a wishful thinker! How could I not be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEWHistory Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 In fact, if you were to adopt that theory, anyone who scores opening night is an 82 goal scorer, and if he drops in two, he is smashing all kinds of records. Wrong. That's too small of a sample size. This is getting ridiculous, there's no argument here. As near as I can figure you guys are talking past each other. IOW, you're saying roughly the same things different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I tap out. This argument got too dumb for me. Probably my own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 We will let it go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The Leafs will hold onto Clarkson and then once he leaves, Leafs fans will look back on his failed tenure with rose colored glasses turning him into some sort of folk hero much like Wendel Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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