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#1 Vic Rattlehead18

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:13 PM

Maybe this doesn't deserve it's own thread. But I think it got lost in the GDT. Here's what I noticed.

the 3rd ended with a 4 on 3 as we all know. when the first pair of penalties expired, the first two guys in the box (nj-carter, ot-winchester) came out, carter went straight to the bench to keep the devils at 4 men, winchester went to the play making it a 4 on 4 with the devils on the power play for about 10 seconds. Then karlsson comes out of the box (and a breakaway) and makes it 5 on 4. Then the devils send out a 5th guy. And they played that way for a few minutes, even with multiple line changes. Then, after the whistle, when they were changing lines i saw the ref wiggling 4 fingers at the ottawa coach when he tried to send 5 guys out again. you could tell the players for both teams were confused at first, hoping on and off the bench but then just started playing 5 on 5.
OT started 4 on 3, which probably lead to the confusion, techincally it should have been 3-on-2 but they can't play 2 men. I've never seen this scenario happen. Maybe it's in the rules? I thought winchester going into the play should have been a penalty for too many men since devils were on the powerplay on the clock but even strength on the ice.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:15 PM

Itll take a game or two for the teams to get this style under their belt. It was fun to watch though.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:24 PM

Does anyone have the actual rule?
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:29 PM

Does anyone have the actual rule?


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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:30 PM

It was done properly. It's not the first time. Same thing happens if a 5 on 3 expires during OT.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:40 PM

Chico said he couldn't recall seeing it happen before. Then Cangiolosi read the rule, but I don't remember what it says.

It was crazy though!

Edited by 95Crash, 08 December 2011 - 11:41 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:43 PM

Like I said in the game thread, no one there aside from the ref and players had any idea wtf was going on.. It was kinda funny looking back on it
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:43 PM

84.3 Overtime – Regular-season – Penalties – When regulation time ends and the teams are 5 on 3, teams will start overtime 5 on 3. Once player strength reaches 5 on 4 or 5 on 5, at the next stoppage of play, player strength is adjusted to 4 on 3 or 4 on 4, as appropriate.

When regulation ends and teams are 4 on 4 teams will start overtime 3 on 3.

If at the end of regulation time teams are three (3) skaters on three (3) skaters, overtime starts three (3) skaters on three (3) skaters. Once player strength reaches five (5) skaters on four (4) skaters or five (5) skaters on five (5) skaters, at the next stoppage player strength is adjusted to four (4) skaters on three (3) skaters or four (4) skaters on four (4) skaters, as appropriate.

At no time will a team have less than three players on the ice. This may require a fifth skater to be added if a two-man advantage occurs.

http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=26498

Edited by Vic Rattlehead18, 08 December 2011 - 11:45 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:51 AM

Like I said in the game thread, no one there aside from the ref and players had any idea wtf was going on.. It was kinda funny looking back on it


actually, I knew EXACTLY what was going on, not to insult anyone, but I knew exactly why there were 5 aside.

I was actually humiliated that our fans only counted white shirts and not the red ones too. The chants of "too many men" from the corner was a joke.

I get how some people didn't understand why we had 5 on 5, rules are rules and its a rare occurrence, but to be screaming for a penalty when we're even numbered was dumb.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:08 AM

actually, I knew EXACTLY what was going on, not to insult anyone, but I knew exactly why there were 5 aside.

I was actually humiliated that our fans only counted white shirts and not the red ones too. The chants of "too many men" from the corner was a joke.

I get how some people didn't understand why we had 5 on 5, rules are rules and its a rare occurrence, but to be screaming for a penalty when we're even numbered was dumb.


To be honest, I only counted the red ones at first and was like "We're gonna get called!!!....Ok why haven't we gotten called?"
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:10 AM

I had a guy in my section that wouldn't stop screaming at the refs about it. Me and another guy both yelled at him that 5 was the proper amount of guys and that prompted him to keep yelling at the refs and to tell each of us how stupid we both were not to know how overtime works.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:13 AM

To be honest, I only counted the red ones at first and was like "We're gonna get called!!!....Ok why haven't we gotten called?"


my initial reaction was this, no doubt, then i immediately counted 5 white and went "oh yeah the roughing calls." guys in front of me both said "ah makes sense" in unison, and they're weren't attending together. lol
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:15 AM

in the beginning of it i was real pissed and yelled... then realized and stopped haha... just wasnt paying 100% attention and said... oh wait

we had 2 penalties, and then came the 5v5... oh well haha live and learn
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:17 AM

in the beginning of it i was real pissed and yelled... then realized and stopped haha... just wasnt paying 100% attention and said... oh wait

we had 2 penalties, and then came the 5v5... oh well haha live and learn


operative word, stopped. you weren't the idiots chanting and booing for the non-call.

simple math people!! haha
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:19 AM

operative word, stopped. you weren't the idiots chanting and booing for the non-call.

simple math people!! haha


yeaa haha took me a bit...and i know Hockey

ALOT of people were yelling/upset cuz they didn't see it either... its not really a normal thing to see 5v5 OT, so understandably, people were confused


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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:19 AM

damn double post!

Edited by Microwavepizza, 09 December 2011 - 01:19 AM.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:53 AM

Dumb lady in my section was yelling and holding up 4 fingers. The ref looked at her at the faceoff when they switching to 4-4, and basically shrugged her off.

She felt vindicated. I felt embarrassed (of our fan base.)
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:49 AM

It's funny when people who don't know the rules are so confident that they are right. I was scorekeeping a game a few weeks ago at work and a goal was scored during a 4 on 4 situation and some tool was making an ass of himself screaming to let his son out of the box. :doh1:

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