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#61 NCDevsFan

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:00 AM

Are we still questioning Lou?
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:06 AM

What do you guys think of going after Subban? Butterfly goalie and extremely athletic...
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:53 AM

I think Lou will set up a trade where we get another teams 1st rounder in the next two years. Then he'll tell the NHL to suck eggs.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:31 AM

What do you guys think of going after Subban? Butterfly goalie and extremely athletic...

I wouldn't want them to take a goalie that early in the draft or with the depth they have (Wedgewood, Kinkaid, Clermont) but I'm not opposed to it if they can get him with a mid round pick. Athletic goalie, moves well laterally, quick reflexes, does well 1 on 1, the main knock against him is rebound control and staying healthy.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:36 AM

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice
Lou Lamoriello said deadline was not Tuesday. Misunderstanding?
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:48 AM

Well, to me, it makes perfect sense.

2012 we would have forfeited the 29th pick.
2013 we're gonna have to give up the 30th

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice
Lou Lamoriello said deadline was not Tuesday. Misunderstanding?


Technically, the deadline is actually 2014 to give up the pick. I think that is what Lou was indicating to Gulitti whose question was when the Devils have to let the NHL know after a season ends when they do decide to forego the pick.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

I thought he had 2 days after the stanley cup final ended?
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:15 AM

I wouldn't want them to take a goalie that early in the draft or with the depth they have (Wedgewood, Kinkaid, Clermont) but I'm not opposed to it if they can get him with a mid round pick. Athletic goalie, moves well laterally, quick reflexes, does well 1 on 1, the main knock against him is rebound control and staying healthy.


Who do you see us taking? It would be nice to grab a 2 way forward somehow. No more defenseman unless a real steal comes. Right wing needs to be addressed ASAP.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:40 AM

Who do you see us taking? It would be nice to grab a 2 way forward somehow. No more defenseman unless a real steal comes. Right wing needs to be addressed ASAP.


Addressing right wing in the draft doesn't mean anything. He's not playing for at least three years. You don't know who might be available by trade, free agent, or someone already in the system or on the team that you can move to right wing. When you pick that low, you take the best available, maybe with the exception of goalie.

As to defenseman, again, assuming that whoever's drafted is not ready to make an immediate jump, by the time he's ready, Greene, Tallinder, Zidlicky contracts will be up, and likely gone. Someone is else who's playing well now could easily regress. We have no idea if Urbom and Gelinas or even Merrill will be any good. So drafting a defenseman with the first pick is not something you rule out.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:05 AM

Addressing right wing in the draft doesn't mean anything. He's not playing for at least three years. You don't know who might be available by trade, free agent, or someone already in the system or on the team that you can move to right wing. When you pick that low, you take the best available, maybe with the exception of goalie.

As to defenseman, again, assuming that whoever's drafted is not ready to make an immediate jump, by the time he's ready, Greene, Tallinder, Zidlicky contracts will be up, and likely gone. Someone is else who's playing well now could easily regress. We have no idea if Urbom and Gelinas or even Merrill will be any good. So drafting a defenseman with the first pick is not something you rule out.



Good points... So why not go goalie if best one comes available? Are we ready to rely on our minors after Marty?
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:11 AM

I thought he had 2 days after the stanley cup final ended?

My understanding as well, guess we will know by today, I think TG understands he has left us all in a confusing state with his recent tweet.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:13 AM

Good points... So why not go goalie if best one comes available? Are we ready to rely on our minors after Marty?


We have a genuine prospect with a lot of talent in Wedgewood. The market for goaltenders in the NHL these days is so crowded, there is always going to be a very serviceable veteran bouncing around looking for a club.

Hopefully Marty can split with Wedgewood or another netminder next year and then if Marty calls it a day we use another veteran.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:14 AM

Keeping the pick may actually be a "posturing" move by Lamoriello. By giving up the pick, its like showing your hand in poker. Maybe Lamoriello wants to see what's out there at this year's draft, and on top of that, use it as a negotiation tool with Parise.

Tough to convince your best forward to stay when you gave up your 1st round draft pick without even seeing what's out there.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Lamoriello and Lombardi had the chance to get together and talk about Jonathan Bernier while at the SCF. The pick may also be part of the strategy to bring him to NJ.

Who knows...
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:15 AM

With how bone dry we are with forward prospects, maybe he is thinking to try and stockpile a little.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:25 AM

Good points... So why not go goalie if best one comes available? Are we ready to rely on our minors after Marty?


Just because drafting goalies is the biggest crapshoot. (Admittedly, I'm making this statement without the benefit of any kind of statistical analysis). I'm also of the belief that you can still compete for a championship with a goalie that's good enough. You also only carry two on the team at any given time, so there's even less of chance of a drafted goalie having a great impact. Other teams seem to be coming around to this line of thinking, so goalies tend to fall in the draft also.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 09:50 AM

I thought he had 2 days after the stanley cup final ended?


Maybe it's 2 days after the last scheduled game?? The only sources I can find are news reports... who knows what the actual legal language is.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:07 AM

Just because drafting goalies is the biggest crapshoot. (Admittedly, I'm making this statement without the benefit of any kind of statistical analysis). I'm also of the belief that you can still compete for a championship with a goalie that's good enough. You also only carry two on the team at any given time, so there's even less of chance of a drafted goalie having a great impact. Other teams seem to be coming around to this line of thinking, so goalies tend to fall in the draft also.


No, this is all true.

4 goalies who played last year in the NHL were drafted in the same round in the same NHL draft. Of course, that was the 9th round of the 1994 draft: Tim Thomas, Evgeni Nabokov, Johan Hedberg, and Tim Thomas.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:19 AM

Tim Tawmus played for two teams?
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:20 AM

No, this is all true.

4 goalies who played last year in the NHL were drafted in the same round in the same NHL draft. Of course, that was the 9th round of the 1994 draft: Tim Thomas, Evgeni Nabokov, Johan Hedberg, and Tim Thomas.


Not to mention the low draft positions of Quick, Holtby, Lunqvist, Rinne, Mike Smith, and that's just off the top of my head.
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