Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If it broke right these last two games they would have been in the race as much as anyone on the outside looking in I think for Lou the hope was "yeah, we definitely don't deserve to be 8-2-2, but if we start playing better right now..." Problem is "right now" is never coming. This team is what it is. It was only a matter of time (and luck turning). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Lou will probably hold onto Zidlicky and Jagr till the few days prior to the deadline. I think Zidlicky is 50/50 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Lou will probably hold onto Zidlicky and Jagr till the few days prior to the deadline. I think Zidlicky is 50/50 right now. At least hold on to Zidlicky til Severson comes back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitico12 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Let's not expect anything earth shattering from Lou this trade deadline. I will, however, expect a bonehead move in the offseason like giving Salvador another 2-year deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Let's not expect anything earth shattering from Lou this trade deadline. I will, however, expect a bonehead move in the offseason like giving Salvador another 2-year deal... I really don't think Lou would do that. I really do think Sal is going to call it quits after this season. At least I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If it broke right these last two games they would have been in the race as much as anyone on the outside looking in But that's the thing: it DID break right, because the Devils were due to lose some games with how poorly they were playing. The reason they lost and are far on the outside is that they suck and don't deserve to be looking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) "LeBrun reported that Lamoriello told Svoboda he's not ready to trade Jagr just yet because he still thinks the Devils are in the Stanley Cup Playoff race in the Eastern Conference." I can't even put in words what im thinking at this moment after reading this. Lou is absolutely senile. is there still any Kool Air drinkers here willing to debate that Lou hasnt completely lost it? Edited February 11, 2015 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfb42183 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) He has to say that!If he doesnt what is that telling the team?If word leaks that lou said anything otherwise its bad (even though all of us could see the writing on the wall) Edited February 11, 2015 by mfb42183 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 "LeBrun reported that Lamoriello told Svoboda he's not ready to trade Jagr just yet because he still thinks the Devils are in the Stanley Cup Playoff race in the Eastern Conference." I can't even put in words what im thinking at this moment after reading this. Lou is absolutely senile. is there still any Kool Air drinkers here willing to debate that Lou hasnt completely lost it? Be reasonable, no need to trade him now. Still a few weeks a away from the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) He has to say that!If he doesnt what is that telling the team?If word leaks that lou said anything otherwise its bad (even though all of us could see the writing on the wall) What it's telling the team? The same thing it's telling us. That he has no clue. Many GMs publicly are telling the media they are not contenders. Team going through a rebuild know damn well what they are a part of Edited February 11, 2015 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If Jagr could still be here on the 17th of January I would be most greatful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'm hoping we can trade Jagr and Zubrus, and call up Boucher and Matteau. I want those two up here getting 15 minutes a night playing a top 6 role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 If Jagr could still be here on the 17th of January I would be most greatful. What are we, going back in time now?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 What are we, going back in time now?!?! No!!! I can't do this season again! It's not fair!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I can't even put in words what im thinking at this moment after reading this. Lou is absolutely senile. is there still any Kool Air drinkers here willing to debate that Lou hasnt completely lost it? How are you surprised by this? Furthermore, how do you not understand this? This has been Lou's MO every year and it's not really a big deal. Lou plays up until the last possible moment. When the trade deadline hits he will trade Jagr. There isn't much reason for him to do it before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort4345 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 What are we, going back in time now?!?! That's too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 "LeBrun reported that Lamoriello told Svoboda he's not ready to trade Jagr just yet because he still thinks the Devils are in the Stanley Cup Playoff race in the Eastern Conference." I can't even put in words what im thinking at this moment after reading this. Lou is absolutely senile. is there still any Kool Air drinkers here willing to debate that Lou hasnt completely lost it? Not all of us take what Lou says at face value. I've stopped caring about what he says, because he says one thing and does another very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaDevil Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Lou is doing exactly what he always does: it aint over until it's over. Until the team is mathematically eliminated, the Devils are still in the hunt. You should be applauding Lou for not throwing in the towel. Crazier things have happened. Is it likely? No. Is it mathematically impossible? Not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 How are you surprised by this? Furthermore, how do you not understand this? This has been Lou's MO every year and it's not really a big deal. Lou plays up until the last possible moment. When the trade deadline hits he will trade Jagr. There isn't much reason for him to do it before that. The Lou-hate is strong with SD. First off, Lou has ALWAYS been a pretty lousy interview or quote machine. He never gives you much of anything, but that's true of most GMs anyway. You usually get some variation of "If there's a move out there that makes sense for our team and fits our budget, we'll explore it, but we won't make a deal for the sake of making a deal." They'll also try to leave every last option open for as long as they can. Lou telling an agent that he thinks the Devils are still in the hunt is disturbing on the surface and sounds ridiculous (though again, that blurb did come before the last two losses), but does Lou actually believe that deep down? I don't see how he possibly can, especially from the front-row vantage point he has right now. So though I'm not exactly overflowing with confidence that Lou is the guy to lead the Devils back to prosperity, I do think he'll get it as right as he can at the deadline. Some fans will get on him if he doesn't trade every last "no future" piece, but I do truly believe Lou will try his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Isn't Jagr's salary a lil steep for a rental? Do you think Lou will have to take back a "relatively bad" contract in return? Many playoff teams are up against the cap and although they might really like to bring in Jagr to help out, cap wise too difficult. I know his contract is bonus laden. That does come into play. And if Lou does pull the trigger and it's not up to our "expectations, we'll be "That ALL he could get for Jags? Lou's not in a good position. Let's be practical Do the Pens have the space? Which playoff bound team would benefit? It may not be so obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Isn't Jagr's salary a lil steep for a rental? Do you think Lou will have to take back a "relatively bad" contract in return? Many playoff teams are up against the cap and although they might really like to bring in Jagr to help out, cap wise too difficult. I know his contract is bonus laden. That does come into play. And if Lou does pull the trigger and it's not up to our "expectations, we'll be "That ALL he could get for Jags? Lou's not in a good position. Let's be practical Do the Pens have the space? Which playoff bound team would benefit? It may not be so obvious. it honestly doesn't even matter. Trading jagr means we're done for this year. All we would care about is the pick we get in return. Besides, his contact is up this year so whatever we would is would be very minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Also, listening to a Pens scribe yesterday on "The Point"on xm (Boomer Gordon) he said Beau Bennetts been a healthy scratch because they want him to play more physical (for a guy that has adequate size). They sit him upstairs and told him to play more like player A,B, and C. Then you'll get back into the line up. Maybe he's not so "desirable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Not all of us take what Lou says at face value. I've stopped caring about what he says, because he says one thing and does another very often. His actions are reflecting EXACTLY what he's saying in this case. Lou always had an "all out one season at a time" approach and waiting last minute. A good example is not trading Clarkson or trying to sign him prior is the same exact path he followed being in denial about the team chances to make a dent in the playoffs and not looking long term at all. This mentality is the reason were here now, lost so many assets even if they were not huge assets with everything he lost for nothing, its accounting for quite a bit when we'd need it desperately. We're lacking skills and have nothing to trade. That's all on him and his delusional "win now" mentality. I mean it's fine if you're a top team and gamble sh!t like that like we were before or now pittsburgh, MTL etc trading away picks and top prospects to reach the next level",. Lou has been gambling hard while we couldnt afford to lose anything, he never adjusted to this new situation. Simulate a "GM Mode" with that kind of mentality in NHL15 and i can assure you that your team won't be great. i used to be so proud of Lou. But he made so fvcking many terrible decisions in the last few years that is hurting the team i can't stand him anymore. GM has been fired for WAY less than that. Edited February 12, 2015 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 This year is different SD, but keep whining and bitching about the same things anyway. The last two seasons, they weren't completely out of it like they will be this season prior to the deadline. Can't say that I'm all that broken up about Clarkson not being re-signed anyway. One of these days you'll learn that you don't ALWAYS get something back for every player, and that EVERY team loses some players for nothing, and that GMs aren't right 100% of the time. And as far as trade partners go, it does take two. You know full well activity will heat up as the deadline gets closer, and on deadline day itself. So what are you sniveling about this time exactly? That Lou isn't moving anyone right this second? Can you at least see what happens by the deadline before throwing yet another sh!tfit about Lou's MO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 His actions are reflecting EXACTLY what he's saying in this case. Because Jagr isn't already traded? Top notch logical analysis. He's getting dealt, 100%. Why does Lou have to tell the media about it? Deadline is 3 weeks away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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