msweet Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=1543&id=732922&lang=en Would be nice if there were some Devils in the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Are you kidding me? How disgraceful, especially letting the Queen on there and not one Dev. Do it soewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Very cool. Too bad there's no way to have those cameras in game. It would be cool if the TV crews could cut to those angles every so often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Devils don't have the marquee players to be included in such a commercial. If Brodeur or Kovy was still here...sure. But c'mon...on our ice they couldn't have thrown us a bone and put Jagr or Elias in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 Zubrus bought a GoPro from me for the outdoor game and he said he was going to S"sneak" it out.. I don't know if he did... The Devils don't have the marquee players to be included in such a commercial. If Brodeur or Kovy was still here...sure. But c'mon...on our ice they couldn't have thrown us a bone and put Jagr or Elias in? exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 thats a great idea to let us see the views that the players see some of their puck handeling is incredible.. but there is no surprise the devils werent in there at all even though it was at our home..lou probably wouldnt allow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Very cool. Too bad there's no way to have those cameras in game. It would be cool if the TV crews could cut to those angles every so often. Once they manage to make the cameras small enough to the point where it can be embedded in a helmet, probably on the side near the ear, without affecting the performance of the helmet or being too bulky, that's when you might start seeing them used regularly during games. It's just too much of a risk to strap $300-500 cameras to a guy's head when he could easily crash into the boards or have a puck hit the camera and break it. Edited January 23, 2015 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Very cool stuff! Crosby puck handling is just bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Once they manage to make the cameras small enough to the point where it can be embedded in a helmet, probably on the side near the ear, without affecting the performance of the helmet or being too bulky, that's when you might start seeing them used regularly during games. It's just too much of a risk to strap $300-500 cameras to a guy's head when he could easily crash into the boards or have a puck hit the camera and break it. i can see those big go pros breaking extremely easily in a sport with heavy contact.. one good crash like you said or a hard hit on the ice, puck or with a stick and that thing is done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Once they manage to make the cameras small enough to the point where it can be embedded in a helmet, probably on the side near the ear, without affecting the performance of the helmet or being too bulky, that's when you might start seeing them used regularly during games. It's just too much of a risk to strap $300-500 cameras to a guy's head when he could easily crash into the boards or have a puck hit the camera and break it. It's not really a price issue. They would only need to put it on one or two players. The issue is that you can't have a camera strapped to a player's helmet. It's ludicrous: it's unsafe, not fair to the player, and looks stupid. Of course you're right that if they get them to be small enough where they are not noticeable, then they could be used. Edited January 24, 2015 by Neb00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) It's not really a price issue. They would only need to put it on one or two players. The issue is that you can't have a camera strapped to a player's helmet. It's ludicrous: it's unsafe, not fair to the player, and looks stupid. Of course you're right that if they get them to be small enough where they are not noticeable, then they could be used. That's what I was saying, beyond not wanting to break a bunch of cameras, it can't affect the safety of the player. If they could make a camera about the size of a pen or even a large sharpie and then embed that in a helmet on the side of the head next to the eye and above the ear, then it would be feasible since that shouldn't affect the helmet's ability to protect the player and it would still provide a vantage point that is nearly identical to that of the player himself. The NHL could generate decent revenue from something like that if they provide a helmet for 1-2 star players on each team and then have the vantage point only be able to be seen if you pay for NHL Gamecenter or Center Ice and maybe for the nationally televised games on NBC and NBCSN, which would work well as a way to show off/advertise the feature for NHL Gamecenter. Edited January 24, 2015 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I kinda got nauseous watching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 That's what I was saying, beyond not wanting to break a bunch of cameras, it can't affect the safety of the player. If they could make a camera about the size of a pen or even a large sharpie and then embed that in a helmet on the side of the head next to the eye and above the ear, then it would be feasible since that shouldn't affect the helmet's ability to protect the player and it would still provide a vantage point that is nearly identical to that of the player himself. The NHL could generate decent revenue from something like that if they provide a helmet for 1-2 star players on each team and then have the vantage point only be able to be seen if you pay for NHL Gamecenter or Center Ice and maybe for the nationally televised games on NBC and NBCSN, which would work well as a way to show off/advertise the feature for NHL Gamecenter. I think the novelty would wear off quick when people start getting nauseous watching a game from that vantage point. It's one thing for little skills and shots in a clip like this and another for full fast paced game action. Players also wouldn't want to carry a camera back with them into a locker room or have one on the bench during tactical timeouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I think the novelty would wear off quick when people start getting nauseous watching a game from that vantage point. It's one thing for little skills and shots in a clip like this and another for full fast paced game action. Players also wouldn't want to carry a camera back with them into a locker room or have one on the bench during tactical timeouts. I disagree. A few cuts to this angle a game would add some freshness. As far as the camera goes, as has been said already: that is the issue. Obviously they can't wear a big camera on their helmet's during games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) I think the novelty would wear off quick when people start getting nauseous watching a game from that vantage point. It's one thing for little skills and shots in a clip like this and another for full fast paced game action. Players also wouldn't want to carry a camera back with them into a locker room or have one on the bench during tactical timeouts.I disagree as well, for the same reasons Neboors brought up. Obviously the camera needs to be small enough to embed in the helmet so that it's not intrusive for the player and doesn't require he do anything different for it to work.As far as the angle making people nauseous, that's not a real issue. People said things like that so much when the Blair Witch Project was released and recording with a hand-held camera from the perspective of a participant was popularized, but it didn't bother the majority of people. Films like that are comprised entirely of POV camera angles that are "shaky". All we're talking about here is using these cameras to supplement the main cameras at center ice in the way that the cameras on top of the glass behind the net are. They'll cut to these cameras for a few seconds or maybe a bit longer if there's a PP/PK situation where the player is more likely to be mostly stationary. Also, having the cameras capturing what's being said during a timeout when tactics and strategy is being discussed isn't an issue either. I'm sure that the NHL and NBC/Comcast would agree to not use the player cams during timeouts if teams asked for that. Edited January 24, 2015 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Once they manage to make the cameras small enough to the point where it can be embedded in a helmet, probably on the side near the ear, without affecting the performance of the helmet or being too bulky, that's when you might start seeing them used regularly during games. It's just too much of a risk to strap $300-500 cameras to a guy's head when he could easily crash into the boards or have a puck hit the camera and break it. I realize a professional broadcast-caliber camera is different from a GoPro, but does anyone remember when John Vanbiesbrouck had a camera on his helmet in the 1996 All-Star Game? http://www.youtu.be/XlRCGR10uBg (That game was also notable for being the debut of the infamous glowing puck.) Kelly Hrudey also had a helmet-cam way back in 1991 when the Kings and Rangers played an outdoor exhibition game at Caesar's Palace. And MA Fleury has worn a helmet camera multiple times, including during the 2004 lockout in a game against Albany. (Article with picture of the camera embedded in the bottom on the mask; video comprised of footage recorded by the helmet cam in that AHL game) I agree, though, that the GoPro is still too big to be used in a setting such as this, despite the remarkable progress consumer photography electronics have made with regard to size, durability, and video/picture quality. My only point is that the technology exists to pull this off if the parties involved really wanted to do it; the problem, if you can call it that, is that it's still viewed as a gimmick. Finally; since this is a Devils board, here's a video of Cory Schneider wearing a GoPro at practice at Yankee Stadium: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Okay, here's a change-up for you guys. It's happening: http://gopro.com/news/gopro-and-nhl-new-partnership-will-change-the-way-you-watch-hockey In an unprecedented first for GoPro, a new partnership with the National Hockey League (NHL) and the NHL Players' Association (NHLPA) will bring hockey fans closer to the action on the ice than ever before. Beginning with this weekend’s NHL All-Star Skills Competition and All-Star Game, the NHL will use GoPro cameras to deliver viewers never-before-seen perspectives of the game. [...] The National Hockey League (NHL) and the National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) today announced a North American partnership with GoPro, the maker of the world's most versatile camera and enabler of some of today's most immersive and engaging content. The agreement is GoPro’s first with a major professional sports league. As part of this unprecedented partnership, the NHL will use GoPro’s innovative equipment and expertise to deliver hockey fans never-before-seen perspectives of the game and the talents of the top players in high-definition video content during national and regional game broadcasts and across the digital and social media platforms of the NHLPA, NHL and GoPro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Okay, here's a change-up for you guys. It's happening: http://gopro.com/news/gopro-and-nhl-new-partnership-will-change-the-way-you-watch-hockey In an unprecedented first for GoPro, a new partnership with the National Hockey League (NHL) and the NHL Players' Association (NHLPA) will bring hockey fans closer to the action on the ice than ever before. Beginning with this weekend’s NHL All-Star Skills Competition and All-Star Game, the NHL will use GoPro cameras to deliver viewers never-before-seen perspectives of the game. [...] The National Hockey League (NHL) and the National Hockey League Players’ Association (NHLPA) today announced a North American partnership with GoPro, the maker of the world's most versatile camera and enabler of some of today's most immersive and engaging content. The agreement is GoPro’s first with a major professional sports league. As part of this unprecedented partnership, the NHL will use GoPro’s innovative equipment and expertise to deliver hockey fans never-before-seen perspectives of the game and the talents of the top players in high-definition video content during national and regional game broadcasts and across the digital and social media platforms of the NHLPA, NHL and GoPro. I heard it mentioned on NHLN that they'd use the GoPro cameras during the skills competition to give a POV perspective. Not sure how they'll be used during the actual game, though I'd not be surprised to see them on the goalies, as I'd think it'd be easiest to strap them to the goalies without affecting them. Maybe they use them like the police body cameras and attach them to the players chest near the jersey's collar? Watching the video linked here. I didn't quite get how they were capturing the angle where it was in front of and above the player as if fixed at the same distance in front of and above the player, allowing the player to rotate without the camera following them. It was if it was attached to the player's helmet by a track containing well oiled ball bearings to allow the player to spin without the camera going with them. Edited January 24, 2015 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWomp Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Watching the video linked here. I didn't quite get how they were capturing the angle where it was in front of and above the player as if fixed at the same distance in front of and above the player, allowing the player to rotate without the camera following them. It was if it was attached to the player's helmet by a track containing well oiled ball bearings to allow the player to spin without the camera going with them. I don't understand how they got those angles either. Can someone explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 The end shows the "bloopers" With guys carrying selfie sticks with gopros on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I wish they could get this footage real time, the quality of NHL games at player level has always been lacking. Going to have to be quick with the video angles to get the whole glove one nostril snot/spitting issue since thats gonna always kill up close views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Patrick Burke mentioned something on Twitter that I didn't even notice but is pretty insane. Towards the end (about 2:20 in), TJ Oshie fakes a slapshot by actually taking the shot, then getting his stick back in front of the puck almost immediately. That's some nifty hands there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wish they could get this footage real time, the quality of NHL games at player level has always been lacking. 100%. It would be great to cut to the GoPros in the transition game as the players move up ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The end shows the "bloopers" With guys carrying selfie sticks with gopros on them. But in the video, they're being shot while skating and stickhandling, so it was somehow strapped to their head or something. I'm really curious how that was achieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) As impressive as this may be, they are doing this stuff at maybe half-speed, which says a lot about just how skilled these guys really are. It's also worth noting though that some of the goalies and defensemen aren't NHL players and seem to just be placed there for the purpose of getting schooled on camera, but still some of the moves they do are impressive, especially Oshie's fake slapper. I would love to see some footage like this from real game action, but I'd hate for it to be used live during broadcasts, only for replays. Edited January 26, 2015 by devilsfan26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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