Devilsfan118 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Not to pull a Pepperkorn here, but I had a dream last night that the lockout would be resolved by my birthday (November 18th) so..unfortunately, I'm kinda letting myself get my hopes up with the recent talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I wasn't optimistic until I saw that Clarkson and Enstrom both left their teams for "personal reasons". Maybe I'm reading too much into it TG tweeted they apparently had a disagreement with the coach. I think the 10 hour or so meeting of the 2 second in commands, closely followed by a full meeting, bodes well. Neither side tried to score points after Saturday's meeting, which suggests to me they have an agenda of points and just need to hash out specifics, as long as neither of the 2 heads completely changes their mind on something. I think the seconds will be shocked if some real traction can't be found in today's meeting. There is no reason to meet for 10 hours, resolve nothing, and then call the big bosses in to meet 3 days later, so there was at least belief in the 2 sides moving together in Saturday's meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm still wary, especially since the owners are only 'partially' paying the Make Whole provision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 118: It should be resolved very close to then. The NBA lockout was resolved November 26th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If I set the over under at December 15th for an NHL game....how many would take the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If I set the over under at December 15th for an NHL game....how many would take the under. That's a tough line. Honestly, that could push. Does this sound familiar? "On October 28, Stern announced the cancellation of all games through November 30 after negotiations regarding division of revenue ended without an agreement. He said that [NBAPA president] Hunter was unwilling "to go a penny below 52 [percent]" on BRI, while Hunter said, "We made a lot of concessions, but unfortunately at this time it's not enough."[5] Stern indicated that an 82-game season was no longer possible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I think the silence from the two sides is a sign of progress. They hopefully are done caring about trying to gain public favorability and now just want to get a deal done. These meetings are going well into the night and are happening each day. I'm hopeful we have an agreement within the next two weeks are our first NHL games between December 1st and 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 im bored and just got this thought... do you guys think there's a chance that Lou knew a full season lockout would most likely happen so that our rank wouldnt change so thats why he decided to keep our pick so we can get a player that would be ready a little bit faster to bring in the system? probably not lol but wtv... just throwing that out there, theres not much to talk about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 im bored and just got this thought... do you guys think there's a chance that Lou knew a full season lockout would most likely happen so that our rank wouldnt change so thats why he decided to keep our pick so we can get a player that would be ready a little bit faster to bring in the system? probably not lol but wtv... just throwing that out there, theres not much to talk about Pretty sure we had a lottery draft in 2005, I'd imagine they do something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Pretty sure we had a lottery draft in 2005, I'd imagine they do something similar.. Watch Edmonton get the #1 overall again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 . Watch Edmonton get the #1 overall again. Even if that happens, I would probably be less pissed off that they would have had 4 #1 picks in a row than Pittsburgh in the early to mid 2000's. I just really dislike sh!ttsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 im bored and just got this thought... do you guys think there's a chance that Lou knew a full season lockout would most likely happen so that our rank wouldnt change so thats why he decided to keep our pick so we can get a player that would be ready a little bit faster to bring in the system? probably not lol but wtv... just throwing that out there, theres not much to talk about This years draft is ridiculously strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 It was actually 2 #1s and 2 #2s...they turned into Fleury, Malkin, Crosby and Staal. Nothing like being rewarded for suckage...but that's how the draft works...who knows, one day the Devils may find themselves there too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Edmonton would be very unlikely to get the #1 pick in a 2005-style lottery, since they've had so many #1 picks. I think they'd just get the one ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) http://www.nhl.com/i...ge.htm?id=26401 They looked at the last three seasons, and 4 drafts. 3 balls: Team has not made the playoffs each of the last 3 seasons, nor had the no.1 overall pick 2 balls: Team has accomplished one of those feats 1 ball: Team has accomplished two or more of those feats I think Lou kept the pick for the "time value of prospects" argument and to send a message to Parise and other UFAs that the Devils were going to be a playoff team this year. edit: Edmonton had the last two no. 1 overall picks so they'd only have one ball in this scenario. Edited November 8, 2012 by halfsharkalligatorhalfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njd3b1ink Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Are these NHL players serious? Now apparently they want even more!? Going from $240m to $260m in these negotiations, and still not willing to start at 50-50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Are these NHL players serious? Now apparently they want even more!? Going from $240m to $260m in these negotiations, and still not willing to start at 50-50. The NHL went from $180 mil to $200 mil yet in the eyes of all the shills for the PA (that goes double for you Brooksie), this will all be explained away as more PR attacks on the PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Are these NHL players serious? Now apparently they want even more!? Going from $240m to $260m in these negotiations, and still not willing to start at 50-50. 50-50 is unworkable for next year without huge amnesty buyouts or huge salary reductions. It's a non-starter. That will not be where the final deal lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njd3b1ink Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 50-50 is unworkable for next year without huge amnesty buyouts or huge salary reductions. It's a non-starter. That will not be where the final deal lands. it seems like the final deal will have to be in the ball park of 50-50. I was talking more about the $260. At this point in the lockout, why raise your demands? It makes no sense to all of a sudden want more after asking for less the entire summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Both sides are meeting again tmrw. Neither side are saying anything, silence is golden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Good news, sounds like the league was ready to walk if no progress was made today, but since they're meeting tomorrow, I assume there was progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 One positive from lebrun "This could still fall apart, but I’m ready to state that I believe there’s a better chance of a deal getting done than not at this stage." http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...r-day-of-talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Mixed messages from the experts from Twitter in terms of how likely these talks will lead to a new CBA. Possibly reflecting how the talks are progressing at this point or just the lack of information available. Cautiously hopeful at this point for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I am hopeful too. If nothing comes of this I think it will be disastrous for the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 18 hours in meetings over the past few days..it sure seems like that's a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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