Triumph Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Just because a few rookie coaches didn't work out could mean another rookie coach wont either. I hardly consider Brent Sutter's time here a failure, so that's 1 for 2 since the lockout. Sutter was handed the worst team the Devils have iced in some time and made the playoffs. I'd be just fine with Eaves as coach - he has a long track record and he could be here for a while. Edited June 27, 2011 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Just because a few rookie coaches didn't work out could mean another rookie coach wont either. That doesn't make any sense. John MacLean's struggles have no effect on this year's coach, rookie or not. You're saying that no rookie coaches can ever have success, which simply isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BelieveinBrodeur Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Johnny didn't have a good system the Devils were used to. Tallinder called him out on that after he left. A rookie could do good for the job pending his system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 FWIW, just read over on HF that as of today, Eaves has denied having any contact with the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 FWIW, just read over on HF that as of today, Eaves has denied having any contact with the Devils. Which would make perfect sense since if you want to work with Lou Lamoriello you don't talk to the press about it. So how long before he signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdubdevs Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Son of a b*tch!!!!!!!! http://host.madison.com/sports/blog/article_b371b734-a0cb-11e0-b792-001cc4c03286.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I confess I thought he sounded cool. This will make the "Devs ink Hitch" headlines all the more nauseating. or Ramsey. let's face it ... in Lou I'm not so sure I trust when it comes to coaches. There just isn't anything out there is the thing of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 let's face it ... in Lou I'm not so sure I trust when it comes to coaches. No reason to trust he has been a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I still want DeBoer, as he has NHL experience, is young (meaning he could be a long-term solution), and I put no stock in the fact that he couldn't do anything in Florida, because no one can ever do anything in Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Which would make perfect sense since if you want to work with Lou Lamoriello you don't talk to the press about it. So how long before he signs. I read that about Sutter and a week later we held a press conference for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 That doesn't make any sense. John MacLean's struggles have no effect on this year's coach, rookie or not. You're saying that no rookie coaches can ever have success, which simply isn't true. I did not say that. I deliberately phrased my words as another rookie coach could not succeed. JMAC failed, Sutter left for rookie coach reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) I did not say that. I deliberately phrased my words as another rookie coach could not succeed. JMAC failed, Sutter left for rookie coach reasons. lol since when does personal coach reasons = rookie coach reasons? Sutter wasn't a failure and he wasn't around long enough to be a success but plenty of rookie coaches have been successes elsewhere, with big markets and little markets. I see no intrinsic reason why it can't happen here. And when the veteran choices out there are meh, there's no reason to limit the pool to them. I confess I thought he sounded cool.This will make the "Devs ink Hitch" headlines all the more nauseating. or Ramsey. Yeah seriously...it kinda does sound like Eaves is the first choice and Ramsey's the fallback and it also sounds like Eaves doesn't want to leave. Which is too bad since he's got a nice resume but I don't want a Sutter II either. Edited June 27, 2011 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 A seasoned coach is less likely to quit and go running for his family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn01 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Via Star Ledger: New Jersey GM had a brief update on the team's search for a new head coach at the draft this past weekend."Nothing yet," he said. "Until we get one, we're not close. But it won't be long." Former Atlanta Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay and University of Wisconsin bench boss Mike Eaves are thought be among the top candidates for the However Mike Eaves denied any chance of him being the Devils coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) In this case I hope the rumors are bs cause if we're stuck with Craig Ramsay as the coach we're gonna be wishing someone 20 years old was behind the bench Edited June 27, 2011 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BelieveinBrodeur Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Maybe back to Sterling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 In this case I hope the rumors are bs cause if we're stuck with Craig Ramsay as the coach we're gonna be wishing someone 20 years old was behind the bench maybe i can buy a lava lamp, put a mustache and tie on it and that can be our coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 A seasoned coach is less likely to quit and go running for his family That might be (arguably) true, but a seasoned coach is most likely older and therefore more likely to retire as well. But none of this should be what we're concerned about. We need a good coach, not a coach who is likely to stay a long time. I doubt JMac was going to go running to his family, but it doesn't matter because he was a bad coach who couldn't last half a season anyway. We need to hire the best coach we can find regardless of age or NHL experience. We can take our chances with retirement/random decisions to move closer to family later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 The obvious choice is lou. After all, he's given us the most success post lockout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Dose Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Where's our new coach, dangit!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I think asst. coaches that have been "in the system" are doomed to failure. When Jim Playfair succeeded Darryl Sutter, he said he never got total autonomy. JMac imo never got it either. The first test of this (and most of you will think this was a small incident)when P3l picked a fight in the last minutes of a game, JMac was fined 10K because it happened in the last 5 minutes of the game. Lou packed his bags (P3L)and sent him into exile, never to be thought of again. He was good buddies with Kovy. That was when Jmac totally lost the team. That lou was really calling the shots. I think our next coach will come from nhl asst coaching ranks. If Larry Robinson would take the job, no way will he succeed. Whoever it is, they must come from outside this organization. and be at the helm without looking over their shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I think asst. coaches that have been "in the system" are doomed to failure. When Jim Playfair succeeded Darryl Sutter, he said he never got total autonomy. JMac imo never got it either. The first test of this (and most of you will think this was a small incident)when P3l picked a fight in the last minutes of a game, JMac was fined 10K because it happened in the last 5 minutes of the game. Lou packed his bags (P3L)and sent him into exile, never to be thought of again. He was good buddies with Kovy. That was when Jmac totally lost the team. That lou was really calling the shots. I think our next coach will come from nhl asst coaching ranks. If Larry Robinson would take the job, no way will he succeed. Whoever it is, they must come from outside this organization. and be at the helm without looking over their shoulder. Agree 100%. I think the assistant coaches with the Devils are known as the 'good cops', being around the team so much. The team gets too comfortable seeing them as friends when you get the dictator Lemaire and Sutter head coaches, especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 The first test of this (and most of you will think this was a small incident)when P3l picked a fight in the last minutes of a game, JMac was fined 10K because it happened in the last 5 minutes of the game. Lou packed his bags (P3L)and sent him into exile, never to be thought of again. He was good buddies with Kovy. That was when Jmac totally lost the team. That lou was really calling the shots. The problem with that is at that time it was extremely selfish to pick a fight in a blowout with the roster problems we had at that time (having to dress 15 players the next game or so), so PL3 really did deserve a kick in the ****. Fighters who can't play are a dime a dozen anyway, I really doubt arguably heavy-handed treatment of the 21st guy on a 20 man roster had anything to do with the fact Mac just couldn't coach in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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