RSC Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Go Stars Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 lol, fvck the stars, if they sign before july 1st, we get the second round anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Excellent point. Losing Langs doesn't help re-sign Parise. I know Lemaire wanted to make White the Captain last year. Making an attempt at re-signing Parise right now would be a very prudent decision especially if we have the cap space. If we lock up Parise now we don't have to be distracted by it in the summer, leaving more time to go out and sign new players and work out some decent trades. That is unless you want a debacle like last off season with the whole Kovy thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 lol, fvck the stars, if they sign before july 1st, we get the second round anyway. but if he signs with them after july 1st, we have to send them our 2012 3rd... thats the first part of this move i'll agree is dumb cause if you give him the choice, you know he'll wait the extra time just to screw us some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 why would we forfeit our first in the only year we could very well be drafting in the top 5? I'm sorry I was responding to your original post. It sounded like we were forfeiting our 1st round pick this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 but we still get a second round pick, so i guess we are getting a second round pick no matter what the scenario, except after july 1 costs us a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Better re-sign Parise now before Lou deals him for a conditional 2nd round pick. I'm at < 50% that he will re-sign here. IIRC, we'll have him for next year because he's RFA (or we'll get picks if he signs an offer sheet) But I'm pretty sure #s 15 and 9 are both available for the 2012-2013 season Edited January 7, 2011 by BlueSkirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSC Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Excellent point. Losing Langs doesn't help re-sign Parise. I know Lemaire wanted to make White the Captain last year. You're twisting the facts and you fvcking know it. He wanted to give White the "C" in Carolina when Jamie was going to be a healthy scratch to get him some rest for the playoffs. Huge difference. Stop acting like you know what's going on inside that locker room, you know as much as I do. Edited January 7, 2011 by RSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm sorry I was responding to your original post. It sounded like we were forfeiting our 1st round pick this year. gotcha, i was just stating having an extra 2nd rounder at some point would be better, especially knowing we'll loose a 1st in the next 4 years. but we still get a second round pick, so i guess we are getting a second round pick no matter what the scenario, except after july 1 costs us a bit. yeah, but if we have to give up a 3rd to get the 2nd on top of langs, its a hit against this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Making an attempt at re-signing Parise right now would be a very prudent decision especially if we have the cap space. If we lock up Parise now we don't have to be distracted by it in the summer, leaving more time to go out and sign new players and work out some decent trades. That is unless you want a debacle like last off season with the whole Kovy thing. I would agree, but I am not too sure that Parise wants to stay here now. The other factor is that Lou typically waits until the last minute and invites players to test the market and assess his budget. Parise is in the driver's seat and him hiring a new agent doesn't help. Would not be surprised if he signed a 1-year deal and went UFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 it's unclear what happens if the stars win in the first round and he re-signs there. i guess we just get the one 2nd and call it a day. it's also unclear what happens if jamie signs between the draft and july 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Losing Langs doesn't help re-sign Parise. Sure it does. The first step in signing Zach is the shedding of salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 You're twisting the facts and you fvcking know it. He wanted to give White the "C" in Carolina when Jamie was going to be a healthy scratch to get him some rest for the playoffs. Huge difference. Stop acting like you know what's going on inside that locker room, you know as much as I do. He did that to piss Jamie off and it worked. The fact that White was his first choice instead of Parise, Elias, etc. was more the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Sure it does. The first step in signing Zach is the shedding of salary Langenbrunner was going to be a UFA, so unless the Devils re-signed him his salary wouldn't hinder the signing of Parise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajeski06 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 So...Go Stars? But with the way our luck is going this year they probably go downhill and miss the playoffs completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Josefsen will get some ice time now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 it becomes a 2nd if the stars win the first round or re-sign him. either are very possible. Well then- go fvcking Dallas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I would agree, but I am not too sure that Parise wants to stay here now. The other factor is that Lou typically waits until the last minute and invites players to test the market and assess his budget. Parise is in the driver's seat and him hiring a new agent doesn't help. Would not be surprised if he signed a 1-year deal and went UFA. Well then Zachy's going to have to accept that his wubie is gone and be a big boy about it. They can still be friends on Facebook. If Zach signs a 1 year and goes UFA that would be a mistake of epic proportions on Lou's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I don't like the conditions of this deal, nor the fact we could end up with a relatively late 3rd round pick for trading our captain away. Very disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 So...Go Stars? But with the way our luck is going this year they probably go downhill and miss the playoffs completely. doesn't matter, most teams seem to sign their players early on, i am guessing they will have signed him way before july 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I am confident that he will be retained by Dallas. Niewy likes him, he can be had for a reasonable ammount of money afte this year. I guess again it depends on Jamie and if he wants to move his family down there permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 So we get a conditional pick and about 10 fewer brutal, boneheaded, awful, Pee-Wee level mistakes per game? WIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Well then Zachy's going to have to accept that his wubie is gone and be a big boy about it. They can still be friends on Facebook. If Zach signs a 1 year and goes UFA that would be a mistake of epic proportions on Lou's part. Again, the ball is in Zach's court. I don't think he would hire a new agent if he had intentions of re-signing here. If am his new agent, I see this as Zach's biggest opportunity to make the big bucks and go to a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 So we get a conditional pick and about 10 fewer brutal, boneheaded, awful, Pee-Wee level mistakes per game? WIN! Did you watch last night's game? It made fvck-all difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Langenbrunner was going to be a UFA, so unless the Devils re-signed him his salary wouldn't hinder the signing of Parise. I meant trying to sign him right now, or as soon as possible, before teams can offer anything to Parise when he becomes RFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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