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When will we see hockey?

  1. Oct 12 (10 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  2. Nov 12 (19 votes [14.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.62%

  3. Dec 12 (26 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. Jan 13 (33 votes [25.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.38%

  5. Feb 13 (1 votes [0.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.77%

  6. Mar 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Apr 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Oct 13 (14 votes [10.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.77%

  9. Never (27 votes [20.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.77%

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#1701 Daniel

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

this was retweeted by Bob McKenzie...
Kovalchuk will play today in Kazan. Some sources close to SKA say he could stay in Russia #Devils

this is starting to freak me out that we still havent heard at all from Kovy and all those rumours and how he said he'd stay in russia a few months ago

this would be a catastrophe if he does

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I've heard Kovalchuk rumors (staying in RUS?) but not able to confirm. NJD told me they "haven't heard (Kovy) isn't coming back."

So gist of all that is Kovalchuk stuff is just rumors right now. May very well turn up in NJ but many hearing he might not.


This would be like crossing the streams. It would be bad.

He'd be walking away from $80 million, a house in Florida and house in Alpine, not to mention not being able to return to the US since he'd no longer have a work visa.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

I can feel for him, he has played quite a few games for them and I'm sure they are showing him with love so it's never truly "fun" to leave a great situation like that.
All that being said, he is coming off a Stanley Cup appearance so I hope he gets his but back here so we can be ready for a short season.
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#1703 Chuck the Duck

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

Wow. I can't imagine he'd give up the NHL (and the $100 million contract he so coveted). I'm not going to read too much into him playing today for SKA, but I'm sure there is an immense amount of pressure from the heads of that league for him to stay.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:20 AM


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Kovalchuk says, 'I will need to read the new agreement' before he decides what to do next. So there... #NJDevils


Retweeté par Tom Gulitti

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

He'd be walking away from $80 million, a house in Florida and house in Alpine, not to mention not being able to return to the US since he'd no longer have a work visa.



^^^All reasons why these "rumors" are utter nonsense.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:50 AM


Slava Malamud@SlavaMalamud

Kovalchuk says, 'I will need to read the new agreement' before he decides what to do next. So there... #NJDevils


Retweeté par Tom Gulitti

Not that I believe Kovy isn't coming back, but pick your damn words better lol. I'm sure Grossman informed you that you're not losing much
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#1707 John Wensink

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:54 AM

I think he is worried about how much of the cash from his NHL contract he will loose. He could visit FLA in the summer as a vacationer yes?

Also a new KHL contract could be just as big or bigger cause it could be tax free, just like Jagr's was. He would be THE biggest hockey star in Europe.

His wife was/is? a pop star there. It's home.

I think this may happen, and it will ruin this Devils season and probably many more if it does.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

Bill Daly: "The KHL has confirmed it will honor its agreement with us."

Daly: "I'm not inclined to treat this as a "problem" unless or until its a 'problem.' It's not and I don't expect it to be."
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

Not that I believe Kovy isn't coming back, but pick your damn words better lol. I'm sure Grossman informed you that you're not losing much


To me it sounds like 'Will NHL players be allowed to play at the 2014 Olympics?' fake posturing. Which I'm not sure they've decided. And Kovalchuk can't keep playing in the KHL without risking his eligibility for the 2014 Olympics.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

This would be like crossing the streams. It would be bad.

He'd be walking away from $80 million, a house in Florida and house in Alpine, not to mention not being able to return to the US since he'd no longer have a work visa.


And forfeiting 'any' chance to play in Sochi. Not to mention the not so insignificant fact that there's a binding agreement between the NHL and KHL about not poaching players.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:01 AM

Quick question- of course we all know about Radulov bolting to the KHL, but was there a lot of "poaching" going the other way? If not, why would the KHL make that agreement?
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

You guys are getting swept up in the sensationalism of Twitter reporting. The lack of publicity and openness in the Devils organization means that we get Twitter rumor nonsense every once in a while, especially when Kovalchuk is concerned. "Sources in Russia" are usually as reliable as the town gossipers, at best. If you don't think their coaches and league heads have an inferiority complex, and will for KHL to achieve more legitimacy/dominance, you're naive. If your "sources in Russia" are a coach or a league head, or even his mom, you know how they're going to spin it.

Kovalchuk is an emotional player. He was named captain, and led a very skilled and respectable team, and I'm assuming a large proud fanbase. He owes NOTHING to the NHL, the league that locked him out twice in his career, other than to book a flight on Thursday when the players are set to vote on the CBA. Someone like Kovy probably feels like he owes the SKA fans and his teammates a game or two before rushing to pack his bags for a league that took a crap on him yet again (lockout 1, bullsh!t trade procedure/fine, lockout 2, etc.)... He's in peak physical shape, why SHOULD he come back before camp?
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

You guys are getting swept up in the sensationalism of Twitter reporting. The lack of publicity and openness in the Devils organization means that we get Twitter rumor nonsense every once in a while, especially when Kovalchuk is concerned. "Sources in Russia" are usually as reliable as the town gossipers, at best. If you don't think their coaches and league heads have an inferiority complex, and will for KHL to achieve more legitimacy/dominance, you're naive. If your "sources in Russia" are a coach or a league head, or even his mom, you know how they're going to spin it.

Kovalchuk is an emotional player. He was named captain, and led a very skilled and respectable team, and I'm assuming a large proud fanbase. He owes NOTHING to the NHL, the league that locked him out twice in his career, other than to book a flight on Thursday when the players are set to vote on the CBA. Someone like Kovy probably feels like he owes the SKA fans and his teammates a game or two before rushing to pack his bags for a league that took a crap on him yet again (lockout 1, bullsh!t trade procedure/fine, lockout 2, etc.)... He's in peak physical shape, why SHOULD he come back before camp?

Fair enough, but seriously what else are we going to gossip about till they get this thing signed and we open up camp :glare:
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

Quick question- of course we all know about Radulov bolting to the KHL, but was there a lot of "poaching" going the other way? If not, why would the KHL make that agreement?


KHL thought Malkin had another year left on his contract in Russia, and Pittsburgh + his American agent conspired to have him basically defect when he was in Sweden for an exhibition game.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

Quick question- of course we all know about Radulov bolting to the KHL, but was there a lot of "poaching" going the other way? If not, why would the KHL make that agreement?


With the exception of not being able to participate in the Olymics, in the final analysis the transfer agreement isn't really worth the paper its written on. I'm not familiar with the Russian court system, but I highly doubt that the NHL could get a judgment from a Russian court enjoining someone from playing in the KHL because of an agreement between the KHL and the NHL.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

Fair enough, but seriously what else are we going to gossip about till they get this thing signed and we open up camp :glare:


hahaha Exactly! While I usually love our organization's tight-lipped lack of press/Twitter, etc., it really comes crashing down at times like this. The smallest lack of information about a player like Kovalchuk, and everyone with a Twitter account fills in the blanks with their anonymous "sources". On any other team, Kovy would have tweeted himself that he "can't wait to fly back home on Thursday", and this becomes a non-issue.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

It's TFP, so it's probably as credible as anyone else's word on these boards, but take it for what it's worth:

http://www.thefourth.../njd130108.html

Kovalchuk's preference, the source said, was to finish the week with SKA and then return to New Jersey.




"He will be in New Jersey for the start of camp," the source told TFP. "Technically, there is no (CBA) yet, so he can keep playing in for SKA until (the CBA) is official."


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:56 PM



this got me fired up. i cant wait for hockey, fellas.

Edited by Kovy138, 11 January 2013 - 10:56 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMVbuxugJ0

this got me fired up. i cant wait for hockey, fellas.


whatched over 15 times already...
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