aylbert Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's a bit different... but I care very little to argue about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSC Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 If he wants to stash him for a keeper, I say let him. It'll put him at a slight disadvantage compared to the rest of us since he'll have one less bench spot essentially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 This might just be our wackiest draft ever Of course, most of that is because of ayl, but still... In a vacuum, this trade is rather even to me: Aylbert acquires the 2nd (14-Aaron Rodgers), 8th (86-Golden Tate), 10th (110-Kelvin Benjamin) and 14th (158-Packers) round picks from devilsrule33 for his 3rd (25-Andre Ellington), 4th (48-Wes Welker), 10th (120-Riley Cooper) and 14th (168-Coby Fleener) round selections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 In a vacuum, this trade is rather even to me: Aylbert acquires the 2nd (14-Aaron Rodgers), 8th (86-Golden Tate), 10th (110-Kelvin Benjamin) and 14th (158-Packers) round picks from devilsrule33 for his 3rd (25-Andre Ellington), 4th (48-Wes Welker), 10th (120-Riley Cooper) and 14th (168-Coby Fleener) round selections Even in a vacuum (which is the wrong way to evaluate draft-day trades) it's way too early to tell. Will Rodgers play 16 games this year? Will Kelvin Benjamin ever not get double-teamed? Will Welker do enough for 12 games to justify a 4th round draft position (and remember, he wasn't missing 4 games for suspension eons ago when this pick was made)? Will either the Packers D or Fleener show up? How long will it take for Golden Tate to adjust to a game-time situation in Detroit? Talk to me in week 4-6 and we'll see how "even" the trade was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Even in a vacuum (which is the wrong way to evaluate draft-day trades) it's way too early to tell. Will Rodgers play 16 games this year? Will Kelvin Benjamin ever not get double-teamed? Will Welker do enough for 12 games to justify a 4th round draft position (and remember, he wasn't missing 4 games for suspension eons ago when this pick was made)? Will either the Packers D or Fleener show up? How long will it take for Golden Tate to adjust to a game-time situation in Detroit? Talk to me in week 4-6 and we'll see how "even" the trade was. Well, yes... but your questions are all draft day questions and those unknown variables are embedded into the draft value. I meant I would do that trade now (even if you sub fair round value of TY Hilton for Welker - who dropped a fair amount obv) knowing what those picks translate to. I would trade Ellington, Welker (or Hilton), Cooper and Fleener for Rodgers, Tate, Benjamin and Packers D. I was going to grab Welker with the next pick and was a bit bummed (ok, very much so that I said fvck it and went with Stafford... I also debated Sankey) Stafford is a horrid pick if I'm sitting with Rodgers for the season; but I do believe someone is going to want one of my QBs later, and I will have that 4-6 week window of time to see actual value rather than draft value. I honestly feel this is the year Stafford steps it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 when can we set up our lineups on Yahoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Once I hit the "start league" button We need to make the Final two picks first Oh yeah....that's me I'll go with the "why not" theory: BenJarvis Green-Ellis: RB-TBA And then there was one...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) If he wants to waste a pick on it on the gamble that he comes back next year, its fine...it's no different than gambling on Harvin and Crabtree coming back healthy last year... Has takes Nick Novak Sanborn takes Brian Hartline (WR-Mia) and I'll make my pick (after Brian of course) when I get back from my two jobs....good to see we're back on course And because kickers are people too, he gets the official intro during the few minutes I can get on a computer before this thread's locked Josh Gordon WR Cinn This might just be our wackiest draft ever Of course, most of that is because of ayl, but still... If it wasn't already, Gordon clinched it If red can win the league with 14 players then the rest of us should be ashamed It's hard enough with fifteen given byes/injuries. While I 'sort' of agree red shouldn't benefit from a suspension, there's also a non-zero chance Gordon gets his keyster thrown in jail by next August. So while red would get a tremendous benefit next year, it's certainly not without a risk. (mainly that he carries an empty roster spot and doesn't get the big payoff next year) In a vacuum, this trade is rather even to me: Aylbert acquires the 2nd (14-Aaron Rodgers), 8th (86-Golden Tate), 10th (110-Kelvin Benjamin) and 14th (158-Packers) round picks from devilsrule33 for his 3rd (25-Andre Ellington), 4th (48-Wes Welker), 10th (120-Riley Cooper) and 14th (168-Coby Fleener) round selections The problem with assessing that trade is Welker's value has gone to **** since then (he had the concussion/suspension after being drafted). Even in a vacuum (which is the wrong way to evaluate draft-day trades) it's way too early to tell. Will Rodgers play 16 games this year? Will Kelvin Benjamin ever not get double-teamed? Honestly I don't think that'll be an issue since they have a professional receiver in Cotchery along with Olsen. I actually picked Benjamin in my 16-team PPR league lol. Well sort of picked him, I wound up having to autodraft but my list wound up being pretty good considering. I had Peyton, Gio, Roddy, Cruz, Garcon and Pitta as my keepers (we start one QB, two WR's, one Flex, one RB and one TE along with a kicker and five defensive players). I wound up having this as my final roster: QB - Peyton, Locker RB - Gio, Moreno (yes I wound up with him here lol), Helu (my one mistake, I could have had Bradshaw but didn't bump him high enough) WR - Roddy, Cruz, Garcon, Benjamin, Hawkins, Sanu, Caldwell TE - Pitta, Miller K - whatever the Eagles' guy name is DL - K. Williams (Buf) DE - Vernon (Mia) LB - Dansby (Cle) CB - Gibson (Cle) S - Church (Dal) Edited September 4, 2014 by NJDevs4978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Scott skipped me? Or are you waiting on my pick anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Scott skipped me? Or are you waiting on my pick anyway? I thought you picked amongst all the jibber-jabber and bad player movement justifcations going on above me......do proceed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSC Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 QB - Peyton, Locker RB - Gio, Moreno (yes I wound up with him here lol), Helu (my one mistake, I could have had Bradshaw but didn't bump him high enough) WR - Roddy, Cruz, Garcon, Benjamin, Hawkins, Sanu, Caldwell TE - Pitta, Miller K - whatever the Eagles' guy name is DL - K. Williams (Buf) DE - Vernon (Mia) LB - Dansby (Cle) CB - Gibson (Cle) S - Church (Dal) Only two QBs on that roster? Your autodraft failed you But honestly once Moreno inevitably wins the starting job in Miami and becomes a fantasy RB2, I think you'll have a pretty competitive team in a 16 team league. Can't say I know how the IDPs will score though, I've never really tried to understand em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Despite the massive temptation to ninja Law Firm from under CRASHER's nose, league rules mandate that I have a soccer player on my team or face a significant disadvantage. Ergo, the guy who wins is Shayne Graham, K, NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 See??? Nothing to see here....move it along!! If DR doesn't pick a kicker by 245 as he said before, I'll pick one for him and hit the begin button!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 and the highest projected kicker is.... PATRICK MURRAY!!! ....and....we're......done!!!!! Sadly in record fast time too...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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