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Former hockey coach and agent Dave Frost was released on $10,000 bail Wednesday after appearing in an Ontario courtroom charged with a dozen sexual offences.

CTV.ca News Staff

Dave Frost arrives in handcuffs at the Napanee, Ontario courthouse on Tuesday.

Frost was granted bail under a number of terms, including the conditions that he report to police once a week, surrender his passport and stay in the province.

He shouted "innocent, innocent" to reporters after leaving court with his lawyer, which came after someone shouted "I hope you rot" before Frost was ushered into court.

The player described Frost as a "very aggressive, very verbal'' coach.

Frost was arrested Tuesday and charged with 12 counts of sexual exploitation and one count of assault, stemming from allegations involving seven teenagers between the ages of 14 and 16 in eastern Ontario between 1995 and 2001.

The incidents allegedly took place in Deseronto and Napanee where Frost once coached, but police would not say if the allegations are connected to a hockey team.

A publication ban forbids the media from reporting any evidence presented at the bail hearing or the identities of the complainants.

The arrest followed a two-year investigation.

Frost once represented NHLer Mike Danton, who is currently serving a 7 1/2-year prison term in the United States after he admitted he tried to have Frost killed.

News of Frost's arrest brought some relief to Danton's parents.

Danton's father Stephen Jefferson characterized the ordeal as "an emotional rollercoaster."

While he was relieved that Frost had been arrested, the fact remains that his son is still in jail," said Jefferson.

"I believe he is the biggest victim in this whole thing and it'll all be good when Mike's released," Jefferson told reporters on Wednesday,

"I hope that he is going to get back up here, and get the proper help that he needs," he said, adding that his son required medical attention.

Jefferson told CTV's Canada AM on Wednesday that he and his wife waited a "long time" for news of Frost's arrest.

"We're hoping now some justice will be done."

Appearing with his lawyer, Jefferson held back on details of the accusations against Frost. He did, however, say Frost "brainwashed" his son and many others.

"He's a great manipulator, he had me fooled for a long time," Jefferson said.

Jefferson introduced his son to Frost when the boy was 11 years old. Frost became Danton's first coach, and later his agent.

U.S. prosecutors said the motive behind the $10,000 murder-for-hire plot was personal -- Danton was concerned Frost was going to reveal career-damaging information about his promiscuity and use of alcohol and drugs.

Frost has been accused of turning players he mentored away from their families.

Danton, for example, estranged himself from his parents and changed his name from Mike Jefferson after he was drafted into the NHL.

Danton issued a statement from prison earlier this year saying he doesn't want anything to do with his family.

Jefferson said those were Frost's words, not his son's.

The story gets even more bizarre, though. Danton still talks to Frost from prison almost daily.

When asked how that made Jefferson feel, he replied, "It makes me sick."

Jefferson was recently charged with criminal harassment after he repeatedly phoned Frost.

The charge was "egregious," said Jefferson's lawyer, Paul O'Mara, and a Crown withdrew it because it was "not in the public's interest."

A peace bond forbids Jefferson from contacting Frost.

"Jefferson right now is content to let the administration of justice wind its course," O'Mara said.

Frost resigned as an NHL player agent last year. He had previously pleaded guilty to assault charges in a case that involved hitting a player during a game.

He was also banned by the Ontario Hockey Association and suspended by the Metropolitan Toronto Hockey League for other infractions of rules.

Frost's next court date is Sept. 19.

Sex offenders should have no chance for bail, IMO. Sick sick FVKKS :puke:

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Dave Frost arrives in handcuffs at the Napanee, Ontario courthouse on Tuesday.

Its about damn time someone put handcuffs on this guy.

I don't know how any punishment can restore any sort of dignity to the families he destroyed by controlling their sons. It is scary how some people know how to manipulate the mind like this guy can. Everything sounds like some sick horror movie and it took an attempted murder to finally start fully investigating this guy.

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It is in the US... well, sometimes. It's always legally considered statutory rape (which makes no sense when both parties are underage, because wouldn't they BOTH be guilty? And yet they only ding the males in those cases...), but it's never brought forward unless the girl's parents have a vendetta against the guy and the DA's looking to make a name for himself. It's a shame that a well-intentioned law meant to punish pedophilia can be so easily abused by puritanical Capulet wannabes and self-aggrandizing prosecutors with political aspirations.

:huh: Well, that got off-topic, didn't it... :unsure:

Rowdy you are wrong about this. In NJ the age of consent is 16. That is self-explanatory. Unless there is a supervisory situation, any girl or boy 16 or older can have consensual sex with anyone older.

If someone is between 13 and 16, and having consensual sex with someone who is within 4 years of age, that is also legal.

There is NO consent for anyone under 13 years of age, period.

Any chance Danton is one of the victims in Frost's case? Does his age match up with the crime dates?

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Rowdy you are wrong about this. In NJ the age of consent is 16. That is self-explanatory. Unless there is a supervisory situation, any girl or boy 16 or older can have consensual sex with anyone older.

If someone is between 13 and 16, and having consensual sex with someone who is within 4 years of age, that is also legal.

I'll grant you New Jersey since you obviously know the laws of the state better than I do, but I have seen cases in other parts of the country -- and to be honest, I don't recall whether it was in New York or elsewhere -- where this law is abused just as often as it's utilized for the greater good.

(I know, nowhere near a convincing argument, but I guess I'm in more of a rant mode than a "try to convince anyone" mode.)

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That Frost or any other sexual predator is allowed to be released on bail is a tragedy. These people are perverts.

Just recently a sexual predator that was released on bail and promise to appear kidnapped two young boys, one from winnipeg and held them hostage in an abandoned farmhouse for a week until they were released. Lord only knows what exactly this man did to these young boys but it is a STRONG feeling of mine that sexual predators should not be issued bail on any terms whatsoever. This case is not an isolated case either, as i'm sure everyone is aware of.

These sexual predators that are incarcerated actually have more protection in facilities than the actual victims ever recieve and that is something that is flawed and needs to be changed.

If you guys couldn't tell this is something I feel strongly about and I refused to buy any papers that carried Frosts picture because this type of abuse angers me so much. ARGHH seriously I went into sev and saw a paper with Frost on the cover and was so upset. ARGHHHH

Fvking sick, demented fvcks

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You would love my job then Annabelle.

Without getting into specifics, I have the distinct pleasure of arresting registered sex offenders on a consistent basis. That has been my assignment for the past 9 years and I have about about 300 arrests so far.

And trust me, there are some scary characters out there. And there are some mutants that I can screw with consistently, and legally.

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More perverts...... :puke:

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStorie...showbyline=True

Hockey abuse still a danger: parents, experts

24/08/2006 11:40:37 PM

With a former NHL agent and junior hockey league coach facing sex charges, some are taking a closer look at the practice of sending promising young layers away from home.

CTV.ca News Staff

Former NHL player Sheldon Kennedy successfully sued his junior league coach Graham James for sexual assault.

Sheldon Kennedy, who successfully sued his junior league coach Graham James for sexual assault, said the tradition is no longer necessary.

"I had to leave home at 14," Kennedy told CTV News. "I don't agree with it as much anymore. I think there are other avenues where the kids don't have to leave home at such an early age."

Hockey parents in small towns frequently send their children away with coaches, so they can play in larger communities to develop their skills and hopefully get noticed by talent scouts.

"In some of the smaller communities, they're going to have to go to a different city, a bigger city," said Roger Wolfe of Calgary Hockey Development.

But Kennedy, who played forward for the Calgary Flames, said that's no longer necessary because talent scouts are virtually everywhere.

"You can play in a little town where there are 120 people and you're going to get noticed. If you're a good enough player, you're going to get noticed," he said.

Kennedy added that coaches can abuse their power by convincing parents their child has potential to play in the NHL, while not having the best interests of the child at heart.

But he also said that while "we put a lot of emphasis on the coaches, I think we need to put a lot of emphasis back on the parents. We can't just automatically trust who's in charge of our kids and just pass them off ... There were rumours about Graham (James) long before I ever met him, and until I charged him he would still be doing what he was doing."

Gerry Hickey, of the Canadian Hockey Parents Association, said parents are sometimes bullied into staying quiet about potential abuse or threatening behaviour.

Hickey said when he tried to come forward with allegations that a coach was being verbally and physically abusive toward his 14-year-old son, he was intimidated into not taking his accusations to the police.

The coach continued in his role for four more years.

"If a parent speaks out, you're blackballed, so your kid doesn't make the team next year, or could be kicked off the team that year," Hickey told the Canadian Press.

"I've seen it all."

Hockey Canada has addressed the issue of potentially abusive coaches through a program called Speak Out, created in 1997 after Kennedy came forward that James had sexually assaulted him.

The program encourages players to report abuse, harassment and bullying.

"I think the Speak Out program has done huge things to raise awareness, and impact and affect the culture of the game," said Hockey Canada's Todd Jackson.

With a report by CTV's Sarah Galashan and files from The Canadian Press

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