SterioDesign Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 per KMaherNews12 DiPietro told me Isles waiving him felt like, "they ripped my heart out, stabbed it, set it on fire and flushed it down the toilet."I asked DiPietro if he thinks he's still part of the Islanders future plans. He said, "I don't know." DiPietro also admitted injuries, losing and fan hatred over the past 3 years made him think about killing himself at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Drama queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hold on if you feel like letting go ! There's so much to live for ! * rainbows * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 He's got something like 67 million reasons not to be depressed and want to kill himself. It sucks what has transpired in his career since signing that contract, but he can't be shocked by the teams actions and the fan reaction based upon how little he has played in the past 5 years and the fact that he has been so bad when healthy during that timeframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 He may be extremely rich but I feel for him. Depression doesn't care how much money you have or don't have or what your situation is like. Not being able to perform at the level he thinks he can and the constant fan/media criticism can only make that worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) He's got something like 67 million reasons not to be depressed and want to kill himself. It sucks what has transpired in his career since signing that contract, but he can't be shocked by the teams actions and the fan reaction based upon how little he has played in the past 5 years and the fact that he has been so bad when healthy during that timeframe. There's a giant difference between 'not being shocked' and 'feeling absolutely horrible'. I don't think being paid a lot of money assuages the difficulty of having been really good at something and now not being that, especially when that kind of performance is what makes up a giant part of your identity. Edited February 28, 2013 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Drama queen Hold on if you feel like letting go ! There's so much to live for ! * rainbows * Really guys? Dude admits to thinking about committing suicide and this is the response you give? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 $36 mil over 8 more years. I'd love to have my heart ripped out and set on fire like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) So what's the smart money on? - Traditional buy out? Pay him 1.5mm through 2029? Saving the Isles 3mm a year until 2021 (when his contract was due up)... then costing them 1.5mm for another 8 years? Or do you ride out the contract and hope he gets injured again short term or long (insurance) or retires (forfeits) I don't think they would amnesty buy him out... they want the cap. Edited February 28, 2013 by aylbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Depression sucks, but it's all relative. He should take a step back and see just how fortunate he really is right now. His life isn't that bad. Sucks that the Isles essentially screwed themselves over by wasting picks and prospects to draft him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrthemike Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 From what I hear depression is a bitch. When someone says they want to kill themselves you take it seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) From what I hear depression is a bitch. When someone says they want to kill themselves you take it seriously. Depression is no joke. I have been there more than once. I told my story on here a while ago, in the hopes that just one person who might think it's just a question of "cheering up" or "riding it out" might get help. It doesn't matter how much money you have, how easy your life might seem on the surface, or how many good things you have that outsiders think you should be able to appreciate. When you're in the throes of a real depression, you don't see those things at all. You are not thinking rationally about anything. You are in constant physical and mental pain. You feel like there is no way out and no end to the misery, and it is difficult to try to explain what you are feeling to others. You struggle to find enjoyment in anything. In a room for of people, even friends, you feel alone, and overwhelmingly so. The saddest thoughts have a way of invading your mind at the most random intervals. You don't react normally to outside stimuli. Concentrating on even menial tasks can be trying. A sad song on the radio can put you into a funk for days. You can find yourself fighting back tears for no reason at all, no matter how "well" your life might be going, no matter how sunny the skies above. Hopefully, DiPietro got help. Like mrthemike said, when someone says they're suicidal, you don't wave it off as a ploy for attention, or someone feeling sorry for themselves. Yes, some people will do it as a cry for attention, but several others say it with the intention of really following through. Edited February 28, 2013 by Colorado Rockies 1976 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Depression sucks, but it's all relative. He should take a step back and see just how fortunate he really is right now. His life isn't that bad. Sucks that the Isles essentially screwed themselves over by wasting picks and prospects to draft him. As someone who has depression I disagree with this. A lot of people think you can just hit a switch and no longer be depressed. People think you can just look at the "good things" you have and snap out of it but as CR76 posted, that just isn't the case at all. It completely takes over your mind and you lose all sense of self-worth. With his history of concussions, there is a lot of reason to worry about his well-being for the rest of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) As someone who has depression I disagree with this. A lot of people think you can just hit a switch and no longer be depressed. People think you can just look at the "good things" you have and snap out of it but as CR76 posted, that just isn't the case at all. It completely takes over your mind and you lose all sense of self-worth. With his history of concussions, there is a lot of reason to worry about his well-being for the rest of his life. Exactly. It was people saying things like that to me that had me in denial about it for years. After a long Saturday spent working, I was fighting back tears, then saw my wife and then-1.5-year-old daughter in the living room when I arrived home (this was about three years ago). For no reason at all, I went into the bedroom, laid on my side, and started sobbing uncontrollably, FOR NO REASON AT ALL. My wife came into the room and told me I couldn't keep living like that anymore, and to GET HELP. I did almost immediately, but I should've done it much sooner than I did. I had been having issues for years, but I was more interested in covering it up and appearing "normal" than admitting that there might indeed be something wrong with me. Edited February 28, 2013 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeski Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Maybe the NHL should just be about self esteem boosting now. After every season everyone gets miniature Stanley Cup trophies for participation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) He also said he was being 'facetious' with his quote, whatever that means - either he really was being flip, and that makes him look really bad - or he was being serious but was embarassed to admit to it so he's clumsily walking it back now. Edited February 28, 2013 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Exactly. It was people saying things like that to me that had me in denial about it for years. After a long Saturday spent working, I was fighting back tears, then saw my wife and then-1.5-year-old daughter in the living room when I arrived home (this was about three years ago). For no reason at all, I went into the bedroom, laid on my side, and started sobbing uncontrollably, FOR NO REASON AT ALL. My wife came into the room and told me I couldn't keep living like that anymore, and to GET HELP. I did almost immediately, but I should've done it much sooner than I did. I had been having issues for years, but I was more interested in covering it up and appearing "normal" than admitting that there might indeed be something wrong with me. Look, I know what you're saying. We all have up and downs. My point here isn't that depression isn't real for rich people or whatever. It's that if I was in the deepest throes of depression, a cool $18M over 4 years would help....a lot. Again, money doesn't equal happiness, but money makes finding happiness 10000000000000000X easier. A wealthy person, no matter their mental state has more opportunity than a poor person, fact. So I just don't feel his pain. He could do whatever the hell he wants with his life, I can't, you probably can't, most of us probably can't just do whatever we want to do, we do what we have so we can do what we want. DP, it's tough losing the dream, but you got a lot closer than legions that came before you and legions that will come after. He can go start some charity and affect the world in a good way or start a business he enjoys. Those are things I don't have, but he does. Therefore, I don't quite feel true empathy for the man. He also said he was being 'facetious' with his quote, whatever that means - either he really was being flip, and that makes him look really bad - or he was being serious but was embarassed to admit to it so he's clumsily walking it back now. It means using humor in an inappropriate way. Like a joke, basically, but with the added point that it was made at a socially inappropriate point. If he was being facetious about the depression and suicide stuff, he's an ass. Edited February 28, 2013 by ATLL765 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I feel slightly bad for him. I know a lot of people trapped in depression and the feeling of helplessness. One the one hand, he has to be disappointed in himself for not living up to the hype that the Islander pushed on him. On the other hand, he is being paid rather handsomely and is pretty secure financially (if he had good financial advisors). I know that money can't get you out of depression and the perceptions you hold about yourself (true or not), but he needs a change of pace away from the Islanders. He needs to get his career back, but first he needs to get his head back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Look, I know what you're saying. We all have up and downs. My point here isn't that depression isn't real for rich people or whatever. It's that if I was in the deepest throes of depression, a cool $18M over 4 years would help....a lot. Again, money doesn't equal happiness, but money makes finding happiness 10000000000000000X easier. A wealthy person, no matter their mental state has more opportunity than a poor person, fact. So I just don't feel his pain. He could do whatever the hell he wants with his life, I can't, you probably can't, most of us probably can't just do whatever we want to do, we do what we have so we can do what we want. DP, it's tough losing the dream, but you got a lot closer than legions that came before you and legions that will come after. He can go start some charity and affect the world in a good way or start a business he enjoys. Those are things I don't have, but he does. Therefore, I don't quite feel true empathy for the man. It means using humor in an inappropriate way. Like a joke, basically, but with the added point that it was made at a socially inappropriate point. If he was being facetious about the depression and suicide stuff, he's an ass. My gf is a clinical mental health conselor who is currently working at 2 facilities (hospitals) where they treat everything from addictions to depression to in-patient care. Believe me there are plenty of people who have millions of dollars yet blow all of it on their addiction and those who are depressed yet live in multi million-dollar mansions and drive a mercedes. One of the things she has told me is that for many patients who are diagnosed with depression,almost always money doesn't mean or do squat for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) It means using humor in an inappropriate way. Like a joke, basically, but with the added point that it was made at a socially inappropriate point. If he was being facetious about the depression and suicide stuff, he's an ass. I knew what the word meant, I just wasn't sure if he was being truthful about being facetious or not. Edited February 28, 2013 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 While it's awesome to see we're all equally on the side of "depression isn't good," DiPietro has already attempted to rescind his comments: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/story/_/id/9000106/rick-dipietro-clarifies-suicide-comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I knew what the word meant, I just wasn't sure if he was being truthful about being facetious or not. Well, I misunderstood you. My mistake. My gf is a clinical mental health conselor who is currently working at 2 facilities (hospitals) where they treat everything from addictions to depression to in-patient care. Believe me there are plenty of people who have millions of dollars yet blow all of it on their addiction and those who are depressed yet live in multi million-dollar mansions and drive a mercedes. One of the things she has told me is that for many patients who are diagnosed with depression,almost always money doesn't mean or do squat for them. I get it, trust me. I'm definitely not a person who thinks mental illness isn't real or is less real than physical illness. I've seen addiction, depression, and other mental illness destroy people and their family's, I don't doubt their power. I just don't see how poor depressed person=rich depressed person. If I got to choose, I'd choose rich depressed person every time and I think every person here would. No matter how bad life gets for DP, he, as I said, can still go travel the world to make him feel better, he can buy any item on the planet basically. I just don't feel for a wealthy, physically talented person just because he didn't quite "make it". There's billions of people in this world who live with the fact that they aren't doing what they love everyday or aren't at the pinnacle of their field. Why should I feel any extra bad for DP? He has a lot more opportunity and ability to do what he wants than most, if not, all of those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I've always liked DiPietro and I wanted him to do well in his starts this season but it just didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrthemike Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Well, I misunderstood you. My mistake. I get it, trust me. I'm definitely not a person who thinks mental illness isn't real or is less real than physical illness. I've seen addiction, depression, and other mental illness destroy people and their family's, I don't doubt their power. I just don't see how poor depressed person=rich depressed person. If I got to choose, I'd choose rich depressed person every time and I think every person here would. No matter how bad life gets for DP, he, as I said, can still go travel the world to make him feel better, he can buy any item on the planet basically. I just don't feel for a wealthy, physically talented person just because he didn't quite "make it". There's billions of people in this world who live with the fact that they aren't doing what they love everyday or aren't at the pinnacle of their field. Why should I feel any extra bad for DP? He has a lot more opportunity and ability to do what he wants than most, if not, all of those people. But the thing is that none of those things that would make you or me feel better actually makes someone with clinical depression feel better - money is completely irrelevant in this case. No matter what, they are in a constant funk. Look at guys like Derek Boogard and Rick Rypien. You can't just "take a vacation" or "buy something nice" and feel better. Depression doesn't work like that. It's a medical condition that requires treatment. The same way a child with ADHD can't just "sit still and concentrate". No matter how much they would like to, they can't control it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Really guys? Dude admits to thinking about committing suicide and this is the response you give? Yes, because I could tell he wasn't being serious. He was just being melodramatic and 'woe is me'. He wanted attention. It's like a preteen girl who gets dumped by her boyfriend and makes a big deal about sobbing loudly in public and talking about how her life is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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