Derlique Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 This thread isn't meant for league wide speculation or news, but just what NJ is doing. With the trade deadline a month away, things are going to start to happen. We've talked a lot about Jagr and Zidlicky but with Bernier's recent surge and Gomez staying around.6 ppg, there may be some more Devils to be had. Curious what people think Bernier and Gomez could garner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 This thread isn't meant for league wide speculation or news, but just what NJ is doing. With the trade deadline a month away, things are going to start to happen. We've talked a lot about Jagr and Zidlicky but with Bernier's recent surge and Gomez staying around.6 ppg, there may be some more Devils to be had. Curious what people think Bernier and Gomez could garner They're worth keeping. They're not going to bring back much of anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Lou will not trade Gomez, and the Devils should not trade Steve Bernier. If anything they should offer Bernier a 3 year deal, he is someone who has talent, and if he is put in the right situation will succeed. During a recent presser, Lou made a comment about wanting to get back to the interchangeable parts dynamic. No one fits that bill better than Steve Bernier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv4Life Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 They're worth keeping. They're not going to bring back much of anything. They aren't making the playoffs barring some crazy comeback so there's no point int doing whatever it takes to not let them go. A 2nd or 3rd rounder is still better than status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneax Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 As devils fans do we believe Bernier is suddenly for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Everyone except Henrique, Cory, Severson, Merril and Larsson should be for-sale. I don't care if Gomez brings back a 5th round pick - it's an asset for a player that has no future here with the Devils. And a three year deal for Bernier, give me a break. As devils fans do we believe Bernier is suddenly for real? I hope his opinion isn't shared by most logical Devils fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Anyone on the list year of their deal should be dealt. End of story. Yes, if they move Zidlicky, jagr, Gomez, Bernier, Ryder, and Havlat all they'll be left with a truly awful team. But they need assets for the future and with cap issues abounding for many teams next year, guys on expiring contracts will be valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 As devils fans do we believe Bernier is suddenly for real? Maybe not, but you don't want to clean house. I would believe Lou will want some sort of roster continuity next season. I think Ryder and Gelinas are better options than Gomez and Bernier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 As devils fans do we believe Bernier is suddenly for real? Well he isn't a top 6 player if that's what you're asking but he is certainly a very good bottom 6er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I doubt anyone around the league would even want Gomez. He's only really had success with us. He was almost useless to Florida, San Jose, and Montreal. Blues fans on hf seem to think Jagr and Zids would fit in well for a playoff run and some think Rattie and a pick would do it. I'm hoping the gm's agree. Maybe Marty can do us a favor while he's there and get us a good deal. Edited February 1, 2015 by Jerzey Devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Power forwards are notorious for developing later. http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/z/zubruda01.html http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/knublmi01.html I'd be very leery about giving him up Bernier when he could just be entering his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Just saw this posted on hf but according to the Ottawa Sun we are interested in Phaneuf. http://m.ottawasun.com/2015/01/31/arizona-coyotes-are-open-for-business-but-opposing-gms-wont-find-many-bargains?token=f46bc3c9f11b1e1ad5f8815d4caabe1f Doubt it's true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Why oh why would the devils want phaneuf?! And you can forget about that high a price for ROR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I wouldn't want to give up what the Leafs would be asking to get him. We need those assets more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneax Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Everyone except Henrique, Cory, Severson, Merril and Larsson should be for-sale. I don't care if Gomez brings back a 5th round pick - it's an asset for a player that has no future here with the Devils. And a three year deal for Bernier, give me a break. I hope his opinion isn't shared by most logical Devils fans. Logical devils fans? He's had a good stretch, he's been in the league for how long? I would hope any logical person wouldn't just jump to the conclusion that he's suddenly the real deal. Could he keep it up, yea. Has he been valuable to us at times in a 4th line role? Yea. Is he some untradeable piece that is key to our future, no. Take your snark somewhere else bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Logical devils fans? He's had a good stretch, he's been in the league for how long? I would hope any logical person wouldn't just jump to the conclusion that he's suddenly the real deal. Could he keep it up, yea. Has he been valuable to us at times in a 4th line role? Yea. Is he some untradeable piece that is key to our future, no. Take your snark somewhere else bro. Should've made this more clear - I agree with you. "His" was referring to the guy above you. Edited February 1, 2015 by Devilsfan118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't think Bernier garners anything and I don't think he is worth trading. The Devils have literally 0 signed at RW organizationally next year - he's a perfectly fine 4th line guy - keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm not Bernier's biggest fan but he has come back strongly this season after being just awful last year. He's a guy who needs to stay in the 4th line role. With his kind of game he seems to excel and be productive in that role. When he's put up against faster and more skilled players on the upper lines, he looks atrociously bad. I'm fine with him in the 4th line role. The 4th line with Gionta out has been significantly better. I don't see what we gain by adding Phaneuf and it's probably Garrioch "throw it against the wall" type of rumor mongering. We don't even have something worth trading that would make the Leafs willing to retain some salary or take back a bad contract. I mean I suppose you could stiff Zubrus or Ruutu on them for just next year. But keep in mind in a few years, guys like Larsson and Merrill are going to need significant raises and Phaneuf will be highly paid and probably regressing. I think Garrioch is way off on his Brodeur/Lou comments. That's totally not the vibe/read I get. Probably got that snippet from Sather. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't think Bernier garners anything and I don't think he is worth trading. The Devils have literally 0 signed at RW organizationally next year - he's a perfectly fine 4th line guy - keep him. No reason they can't re-sign him in the offseason. Not like he's gonna have a market. I wouldn't trade him if all you're getting is a 5th or something. But if you could get a 3rd for him, I would absolutely do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Lou will not trade Gomez, and the Devils should not trade Steve Bernier. If anything they should offer Bernier a 3 year deal, he is someone who has talent, and if he is put in the right situation will succeed. During a recent presser, Lou made a comment about wanting to get back to the interchangeable parts dynamic. No one fits that bill better than Steve Bernier. I think that if Gomer was presented an opportunity by a playoff bound team? i think he would surely consider it. I think that's the case w/ Jags/Zids too. If someones pp guy goes down & they desperately need someone to step in (at the right price) he may garner interest. On Bernier, I think he's having a good run now, but he'll peter out and go back to the same ole Bernier we grew to hope Lou doesn't resign. Be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It would be nice if the Devils could dress Ryder and give him some opportunities to score some PP goals to try and enhance his trade value. As long as the team is getting some more goals now, maybe Ryder's luck might change too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think that if Gomer was presented an opportunity by a playoff bound team? i think he would surely consider it. I think that's the case w/ Jags/Zids too. If someones pp guy goes down & they desperately need someone to step in (at the right price) he may garner interest. On Bernier, I think he's having a good run now, but he'll peter out and go back to the same ole Bernier we grew to hope Lou doesn't resign. Be careful what you wish for. Bernier is the prototypical bottom 6 winger. Players like him are not why we were losing games earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yes, if they move Zidlicky, jagr, Gomez, Bernier, Ryder, and Havlat all they'll still have a truly awful team. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Just saw this posted on hf but according to the Ottawa Sun we are interested in Phaneuf. http://m.ottawasun.com/2015/01/31/arizona-coyotes-are-open-for-business-but-opposing-gms-wont-find-many-bargains?token=f46bc3c9f11b1e1ad5f8815d4caabe1f Doubt it's true though. You can kind of tell that this guy is either making stuff up, or he talks to people who are interns with teams and calls them "executives." First, if anything happens to Lou, it won't be because of Marty. And if anything, the new owners were the ones that pushed Marty out the door. Then there's the Phaneuf nonsense. Unless his "source" told him the Devils would take him if they also received a second round pick in return, or the Leafs pay half of his salary. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Marty and his lack of save percentage pushed himself out the door. Garrioch's article is ridiculous. Phaenuf? Really why? Kessell I can see Lou making a play for, but we don't have the assets for him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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