thanks for the info guys, gives me a good idea who we are getting. I agree with what some of you have said ... although it sucks he doesnt have a big slapper, with the jedi tomas holmstrom in front, those deflectable wristers could be deadly. also many of you say that the last years of the contract he will decline. is this just based on his age? i guess im spoiled since shneids and lidstrom were in their upper 30's last season and of couse father time chelios at 45.