mikepeluso8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I kind of feel like the only hope the Devils have at this point is if it's a lifestyle choice. The Devils have arguably one of the most attractive travel schedules of any NHL team, and his soon to be wife is from NJ (at least that's what everyone always says). Maybe those two factors weigh more heavily than anyone thinks? Not likely when we're talking about the sums of money that are being thrown his way...but you never know what's going on in a person's head. His soon to be wife is from NJ? That's news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I kind of feel like the only hope the Devils have at this point is if it's a lifestyle choice. The Devils have arguably one of the most attractive travel schedules of any NHL team, and his soon to be wife is from NJ (at least that's what everyone always says). Maybe those two factors weigh more heavily than anyone thinks? Not likely when we're talking about the sums of money that are being thrown his way...but you never know what's going on in a person's head. FWIW, a lot of people also say, even on this board, that she is a teacher. Every source I read says she is a nutritionist. Also from what I read she is not in fact from NJ and that they met in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Zach, 27, who played at Shattuck-St. Mary's in Faribault and has purchased a home on Lake Minnetonka, can become an unrestricted free agent at season's end. He and University of North Dakota college sweetheart Alisha Woods will be married this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck27 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 FWIW, a lot of people also say, even on this board, that she is a teacher. Every source I read says she is a nutritionist. Also from what I read she is not in fact from NJ and that they met in college. Yea, I'm just going off this board's hearsay. If you're correct, then we're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Zach, 27, who played at Shattuck-St. Mary's in Faribault and has purchased a home on Lake Minnetonka, can become an unrestricted free agent at season's end. He and University of North Dakota college sweetheart Alisha Woods will be married this summer. This is correct. A lot of posters here make a lot of assumptions or get bad rumors. Yea, I'm just going off this board's hearsay. If you're correct, then we're screwed. As Mikepeluso just posted, we're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 EVERYONE WANTS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ME YOU MARTY ZACH EVERYONE This is very true. There is no player in the league that I enjoy watching more than Zach, and I will be truly sad if he signs anywhere else. But still, I don’t really see how anybody leaves something like $20 mil laying on the table. If it was a couple million over the life of the contract then I think other considerations would be a bigger factor, but if the numbers we’re hearing are real, then I expect him to go and I can’t truly blame him. Twenty million is a sh!tload of money, even if you already have sh!tload of money to start with. That said, if these numbers are the market price for him then I’m fine with letting him walk. Although I love having Kovy on the team, I think his deal is ridiculous, and we don’t need a second ridiculous deal to go with it. I love what Zach brings to this team, but it’s not worth the numbers we’ve seen tossed around. On the other hand, if he does turn down all that money to stay here, then in my mind he will be the greatest Devil ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 This is very true. There is no player in the league that I enjoy watching more than Zach, and I will be truly sad if he signs anywhere else. But still, I don’t really see how anybody leaves something like $20 mil laying on the table. If it was a couple million over the life of the contract then I think other considerations would be a bigger factor, but if the numbers we’re hearing are real, then I expect him to go and I can’t truly blame him. Twenty million is a sh!tload of money, even if you already have sh!tload of money to start with. That said, if these numbers are the market price for him then I’m fine with letting him walk. Although I love having Kovy on the team, I think his deal is ridiculous, and we don’t need a second ridiculous deal to go with it. I love what Zach brings to this team, but it’s not worth the numbers we’ve seen tossed around. On the other hand, if he does turn down all that money to stay here, then in my mind he will be the greatest Devil ever. Exactly. Turning down $20 million dollars??? What are you nuts? That is insane. He and his entire family will be set for the rest of their lives. There is no I in TEAM, but there are a sh!t load of zeroes that Zach just isn't going to turn down....and neither would any of us here. We just like to think we would because we bleed Black and Red, but this is Zach's JOB, Zach's WELLBEING, Zach's CAREER...if anyone offered you $20 million dollars today to leave your current job and do the same thing for another company, you would be RUNNING OUT THE DOOR...SPRINTING. This is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Zach probably has to leave a little money on the table, not necessarily "a lot". You can't compare a 13/100m+ offer to the supposed 7/50 we put out there last year and go "yea no way Zach is going to give up 50m to stay with us". If Lou offered something more practical like 8/64 then Zach could take that, sign a 4-5 year contract when he is around 35ish and still make another 20-25m that brings him pretty close to what the other offers are totaling now. Obviously the difference is guaranteed money and the other is not, but Zach could still make bank and stay with the Devils, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 This is very true. There is no player in the league that I enjoy watching more than Zach, and I will be truly sad if he signs anywhere else. But still, I don’t really see how anybody leaves something like $20 mil laying on the table. If it was a couple million over the life of the contract then I think other considerations would be a bigger factor, but if the numbers we’re hearing are real, then I expect him to go and I can’t truly blame him. Twenty million is a sh!tload of money, even if you already have sh!tload of money to start with. That said, if these numbers are the market price for him then I’m fine with letting him walk. Although I love having Kovy on the team, I think his deal is ridiculous, and we don’t need a second ridiculous deal to go with it. I love what Zach brings to this team, but it’s not worth the numbers we’ve seen tossed around. On the other hand, if he does turn down all that money to stay here, then in my mind he will be the greatest Devil ever. Money does not a great player make. Greatest Devil ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) At the end of the day, Zach will make what is the best decision for him. Lou will make his best offer which is in the best interest of the NJ Devils. Grossly overpaying for someone has biten Lou in the past and that was for marginal players, not the captain. I want Zach back but not at some of the numbers that have been thrown around. Sorry, he simply just isn't worth that. It will suck if he leaves for one of those monster contracts that overpays him, but the devils should be in the playoffs without him next year and I'll root for whoever wears the sweater. Edited July 2, 2012 by devilsadvoc8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 ...if anyone offered you $20 million dollars today to leave your current job and do the same thing for another company, you would be RUNNING OUT THE DOOR...SPRINTING. This is over. A 20m raise for probably anyone reading this board is probably around a 400 fold increase. So yea, if someone offered Zach 2.4billion dollars to play for their team I don't think any of us would be second guessing him. In reality, Zach will make 10-15% more to go play for someone else over the course of his career. I wouldn't give up my job, with my family, with my location for just a 15% raise in a brand new area. That's just me though, some would but it's not as black and white as you are making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Where are you people coming up with this difference of $20 million? I feel like that number was just pulled out of a hat and is now being discussed as fact here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 One way or the other let's just get this sh!t over with already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Money does not a great player make. Greatest Devil ever? I mean in terms of team loyalty (or whatever you want to call it), not in terms of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 A 20m raise for probably anyone reading this board is probably around a 400 fold increase. So yea, if someone offered Zach 2.4billion dollars to play for their team I don't think any of us would be second guessing him. In reality, Zach will make 10-15% more to go play for someone else over the course of his career. I wouldn't give up my job, with my family, with my location for just a 15% raise in a brand new area. That's just me though, some would but it's not as black and white as you are making it out to be. FINE. You wanna play like that... 15% increase?!?!? I will take it tomorrow. Where do I sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 FINE. You wanna play like that... 15% increase?!?!? I will take it tomorrow. Where do I sign? some would but it's not as black and white as you are making it out to be. Did you miss my point? I'm glad you would leave everything behind for 15%, but why pretend like its a forgone conclusion for someone else? The truth is, we don't know... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 @Russotrib Of the "small select group" on Parise's list including #mnwild, Parise will talk to each team again today. This could take some time #nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) @Russotrib Of the "small select group" on Parise's list including #mnwild, Parise will talk to each team again today. This could take some time #nhl Edited July 2, 2012 by Zubie#8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 After the Kovy nonsense, nothing will ever seem to take some time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Did you miss my point? I'm glad you would leave everything behind for 15%, but why pretend like its a forgone conclusion for someone else? The truth is, we don't know... yet. I know this was not directed specifically at my previous post, but just for the record, I never said it was a foregone conclusion. Anyone may or may not take any given deal. All I said was that $20 million is a lot of money. Even if you HAVE a lot of money, twenty million is still a lot, and walking away from it would not be easy for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeDev Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 How many pages did the Kovy thread get to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMazz Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) How many pages did the Kovy thread get to? 55. We past that a while back. Oh...you mean the Kovy contract signing. Edited July 2, 2012 by TheMazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) 600-something, I think. Edit: 619 to be exact. Edited July 2, 2012 by thelastonealive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 55. We past that a while back. Oh...you mean the Kovy contract signing. That was the Kovy trade saga I believe, the Kovy free agency was well over 600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I know this was not directed specifically at my previous post, but just for the record, I never said it was a foregone conclusion. Anyone may or may not take any given deal. All I said was that $20 million is a lot of money. Even if you HAVE a lot of money, twenty million is still a lot, and walking away from it would not be easy for anyone. Right but part of my original argument that MP glossed over was that Zach isn't necessarily even leaving 20m on the table. TFP.com is saying the Penguins are the current front runners offering 10y/80m for example. If the Devils offered 8y/64m and then Zach re-signs those last 2 years for 4-5m, he is now passing up on 6-8m. Still a lot of money, but not quite as staggering as unfair contract comparisons that only focus on the total amount and don't consider that Parise will still have some years at the end to make up the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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