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#21 Devils731

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:10 AM

Send me the business plan and I'll look into investing.

I know we're all joking here but if a competent management team gave me a chance to get in on a new place they were building right outside the arena I would be putting the cash into it.
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 12:59 PM

The building in question is already a resturaunt replete with full bar and hardwood floors. They opened six months before the arena and closed 1 month before.


I believe it was called Mesau resturaunt or something.,

It is ready and waiting.


Looks similar inside to Mompou Tappas bar on the inside.

http://www.mompoutap...?idProduct=4084

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 03:49 PM

The building in question is already a resturaunt replete with full bar and hardwood floors. They opened six months before the arena and closed 1 month before.
I believe it was called Mesau resturaunt or something.,

It is ready and waiting.
Looks similar inside to Mompou Tappas bar on the inside.

http://www.mompoutap...?idProduct=4084


That is a different building than I was originally talking about but I feel that it would be a better idea to put it there. Everything in there is already new, we could just make the outside look better cause its pretty ugly now. I feel that if we put some brick on the outsde of the Mesa building it would look great.
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 03:57 PM

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Here are two pics of Mesa. This is actually a better location, because it is directly across the street from the PNC Tower and the Devils Den. It is also a smaller building and it already has everything in there ready to go.
I'll get some more pictures of this building up here soon.
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 04:11 PM

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Here is a picture taken by me of the Mesa location on January 4th. This was taken outside the Devils Den and in the background is the Gateway Center. I think that some red brick would look good on here to blend in with the area.

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Posted 30 January 2008 - 02:29 PM

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Here is a picture taken by me of the Mesa location on January 4th. This was taken outside the Devils Den and in the background is the Gateway Center. I think that some red brick would look good on here to blend in with the area.




That location would make a fortune.



So would the other buildings on Edison.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 04:33 PM

Yes, I'm resurrecting this topic from the dead but we have some new developments in this. The brick building (not the former Mesa) on Edison Place that we had targeted for a restaurant has been renovated recently. It has been powerwashed and gutted. A sign has been put on the front and it says "ISLEY" which is the new name of the building (The Isley Building). On the bottom and second floors, a bar and grill is being put in called Brick City Bar and Grill. On the rest of the floors, condos are being put in. I believe four units. The first floor of the restaurant in slated to open in August and the second floor in December. I'm glad that this building is being renovated. I hope that the rest of the brick buildings on Edison will be renovated in a similar fashion. I believe that it has been said by Mr.Vanderbeek that a Sheraton or a Courtyard by Marriott was going up on Edison. I was in Denver last summer and there was a hotel that had an old brick building as a base and then a glass tower going up out of that. I think that would work perfectly on Edison. Use those two remaining abandon buildings as the lobby then put a glass tower on top of them.
Also, people have been saying that on Mulberry Street a restaurant is going in called Arena Cafe (owned by the Arena Bar?).

Here's the link to the forum where I found the article. IDK about copyright rules because I know that there was an issue on here earlier in the year so here's the link. Scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
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Also, I would like to re-name this thread as "Revitaliztaion around The Rock" so that we can put up any development news if we hear about it.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 12:31 PM

They have started to tear down buildings along Mulberry Street between Edison Place and Market Street to build an entry plaza to the arena. Mr.Vanderbeek said that there is going to be a large sculpture of a hockey player and they are trying to bring over the big old beer bottle (I always thought that it was a ketchup bottle) that was on a factory on the east side of the Parkway.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 12:43 PM

I would like to re-name this thread as "Revitaliztaion around The Rock" so that we can put up any development news if we hear about it.


Nice! And thanks for the current updates!

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 12:49 PM

Nice! And thanks for the current updates!

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You're welcome. I'll probably head down there when they start either Triangle Park or when they start the building process on the entry plaza and I'll post pictures.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 12:54 PM

Mr.Vanderbeek said that there is going to be a large sculpture of a hockey player ]


How about a nice scott stevens sculpture! :boogie:
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 01:40 PM

How about a nice scott stevens sculpture! :boogie:

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:29 PM

I love Jeff Vanderbeek. Every single thing I've suggested thusfar has been given due consideration and a large part of it has been implemented.

I love what I'm seeing so far and I love the renderings of what its going to look like when its done, but I still want one more thing: a big fountain in the middle of that triangle park with sculptures of Scott Stevens, Marty Brodeur and Claude Lemieux holding up a Stanley Cup in the middle of it. I've predicted just about everything else regarding this arena, lets see if this one gets put into place too.

C'mon Jeff! Commission a real good sculptor to give us a nice monument for the Devils of the future to crowd around when they win future championships! I'd love to have that as something that whatever national channel happens to be broadcasting games can focus on whenever they televise a game at the Rock.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 04:34 PM

Good. Glad to see those broken down building go and soon the plaza will look nive in front of the Rock.
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 12:50 AM

can somebody clarify which entrance plaza they are referring to. the one that was heavily advertised throughout the construction period of the arena was the triangle park on the east side of the buidling, which included the bridge to penn station, all framed by a hotel and office buidling. However, this plaza seems to be on the northeast side on the space between market and edison.

What im getting at is:

a) are there now two entrance plaza's (east side with bridge; northeast side between market and edison)

b) when does construction start on triangle park whcih includes the bridge
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 06:01 AM

So when Triangle park is built, where is the parking going to be? Are they building a deck around there?
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 11:47 AM

Yes, this plaza is different than Triangle Park. This will be on the spot of that little blacktopped corner with the Prudential logo on the floor. This plaza is supposed to be the "Yawkey Way of Newark" and they will have vendors and stuff set up. (For those who don't know, Yawkey Way is a street outside Fenway Park in Boston that is closed off on gameday and street vendors and food stands set up shop there. It has a great atmosphere). I think that since Edison Place is closed off anyway, they should make it like Yawkey Way. Posted Image

From what I know, they are going to be building garages to replace the lots where Triangle Park will be. (Maybe a few floors of garage with retail on the bottom and skyscrapers on top?) Or maybe they'll do what they have at Military Park in Newark where they have a garage underneath the park.

It has been said by Mr. Vanderbeek that Triangle Park's groundbreaking will be in May but I don't know how accurate that is due to landswaps and permits and such.
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 11:56 AM

can somebody clarify which entrance plaza they are referring to. the one that was heavily advertised throughout the construction period of the arena was the triangle park on the east side of the buidling, which included the bridge to penn station, all framed by a hotel and office buidling. However, this plaza seems to be on the northeast side on the space between market and edison.

What im getting at is:

a) are there now two entrance plaza's (east side with bridge; northeast side between market and edison)

b) when does construction start on triangle park whcih includes the bridge


I noticed that they have been rehabing the old railroad bridge that goes over McCarter Highway in the past month or so. Just like getting the rust off and prep work like that so far. They aso have cleared a few sites along there and they have been doing prep work there as well.
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 12:21 PM

Restaurants have the biggest failure rate among small businesses. Last I checked it was somewhere around 95%. They are hard to make a profit, they have so much compitition and they must have a niche market. What sort of foods do you expect to be selling, what is the market demographics and with the compitition what chunk of those people do you expect to get before a game. What about the summer and non game nights, how do you expect to compete with actual restaurents with gourmet chefs.

Also do you realize the costs of setting up something like this. A restuarent with this location is going to be looking for a pretty penny for that building, especially because the Rock went up. They knew exactly what they were doing when they build/bought that building. They are looking for a 100% return on that building no doubt.

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Posted 24 April 2008 - 01:14 PM

Restaurants have the biggest failure rate among small businesses. Last I checked it was somewhere around 95%. They are hard to make a profit, they have so much compitition and they must have a niche market. What sort of foods do you expect to be selling, what is the market demographics and with the compitition what chunk of those people do you expect to get before a game. What about the summer and non game nights, how do you expect to compete with actual restaurents with gourmet chefs.

Also do you realize the costs of setting up something like this. A restuarent with this location is going to be looking for a pretty penny for that building, especially because the Rock went up. They knew exactly what they were doing when they build/bought that building. They are looking for a 100% return on that building no doubt.


That's an interesting statistic. This plan has been scratched because the two locations have already been taken. One is becoming 'Brick City Bar and Grill' that is going to have a gourmet chef (The name escapes me) and is opening in August. The other location is in the process of being torn down to make way for an entry plaza to the arena

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