crashline Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Jesus Christ on a crust of bread! Fvck it, just sign Semin. I'm really surprised other teams haven't taken this route by now. Or maybe it's just because Semin's agent is telling him to wait because he knows as soon as Parise picks a team, Semin's value is going to increase dramatically. I'm sure the same goes for Carle with Suter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If Zach doesn't sign here I want him to sign somewhere that wasn't on anyone's radar like Dallas or St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If Zach doesn't sign here I want him to sign somewhere that wasn't on anyone's radar like Dallas or St. Louis. Winnipeg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmorc2003 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Winnipeg! Or take his talents to South Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 The Sens also signed Hugh Jessiman! Whoop! Whoop! The best player from that draft class... ...poor Rangers, they were mocked before they left the podium on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 haha... an undecided parise twitter account https://twitter.com/#!/@undecidedparise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So..the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Lou throwing a reasonable contract at Semin right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) So..the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Lou throwing a reasonable contract at Semin right now And he's gonna say hmmm, reasonable, or should I wait until Parise is off the market and some team overpays me? Its already rumored he's been getting offers, as has Carle, but both are waiting to get bigger offers once the teams left out of Zach/Suter come knocking. Edited July 3, 2012 by ghdi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 And he's gonna say hmmm, reasonable, or should I wait until Parise is off the market and some team overpays me? Its already rumored he's been getting offers, as has Carle, but both are waiting to get bigger offers once the teams left out of Zach/Suter come knocking. If NJ doesn't get Semin, although we'll be the oldest team in the league, Jagr isn't a bad alternative plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If Zach doesn't sign here I want him to sign somewhere that wasn't on anyone's radar like Dallas or St. Louis. Ironically Dallas is one of the few teams that publicly admitted they were 'out' of the Parise sweepstakes. And he's gonna say hmmm, reasonable, or should I wait until Parise is off the market and some team overpays me? Its already rumored he's been getting offers, as has Carle, but both are waiting to get bigger offers once the teams left out of Zach/Suter come knocking. Bingo. And that's why Semin isn't getting any 'reasonable' contract. Teams have so much money they're giving Zach $8 and $9 million cap hits with a ton of up-front cash, you think someone isn't going to turn around and throw Semin $6-7 plus on a multi-year deal once they lose out on Zach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If NJ doesn't get Semin, although we'll be the oldest team in the league, Jagr isn't a bad alternative plan. Jagr is terrible. Id rather sign nobody then have to watch him all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Jagr is terrible. Id rather sign nobody then have to watch him all year. Problem being nobody = Tedenby, or just bringing back Sykora. And the way Lou's going he'll wind up signing Sykora to a two-year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Pig Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Zach doesnt have the ninja in him. Hes more of a pirate type guy. Edited July 3, 2012 by Brick Pig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Ironically Dallas is one of the few teams that publicly admitted they were 'out' of the Parise sweepstakes. Bingo. And that's why Semin isn't getting any 'reasonable' contract. Teams have so much money they're giving Zach $8 and $9 million cap hits with a ton of up-front cash, you think someone isn't going to turn around and throw Semin $6-7 plus on a multi-year deal once they lose out on Zach? Semin's contract was 6.7 mil this past season. If Semin's top offer is in the 7 million dollar range that is still in the reasonable range for the potential that Semin is capable of reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Problem being nobody = Tedenby, or just bringing back Sykora. And the way Lou's going he'll wind up signing Sykora to a two-year deal Ladies and Gentlemen, You're 2012-2013 New Jersey Devils! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 if we wouldnt have that ownership problem we could even fit those 2 guys... i could see Tallinder traded or Volchenkov asked to waive his NTC for picks to get a little more cap space in case we need it FORWARDS Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Adam Henrique ($0.854m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m) Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) / David Clarkson ($2.667m) Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) Ryan Carter ($0.775m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.563m) / Steve Bernier ($0.775m) Cam Janssen ($0.575m) DEFENSEMEN Mark Fayne ($1.500m) / Marek Zidlicky ($4.000m) Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Bryce Salvador ($3.167m) Andy Greene ($3.000m) / Adam Larsson ($0.925m) Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Peter Harrold ($0.525m) GOALTENDERS Martin Brodeur ($4.500m) Johan Hedberg ($1.400m) BUYOUTS Colin White ($1.000m) / Trent Hunter ($0.667m) / Eric Boulton ($0.163m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,033,333; BONUSES: $262,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,166,667 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMazz Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 if we wouldnt have that ownership problem we could even fit those 2 guys... i could see Tallinder traded or Volchenkov asked to waive his NTC for picks to get a little more cap space in case we need it FORWARDS Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Adam Henrique ($0.854m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m) Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) / David Clarkson ($2.667m) Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) Ryan Carter ($0.775m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.563m) / Steve Bernier ($0.775m) Cam Janssen ($0.575m) DEFENSEMEN Mark Fayne ($1.500m) / Marek Zidlicky ($4.000m) Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Bryce Salvador ($3.167m) Andy Greene ($3.000m) / Adam Larsson ($0.925m) Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Peter Harrold ($0.525m) GOALTENDERS Martin Brodeur ($4.500m) Johan Hedberg ($1.400m) BUYOUTS Colin White ($1.000m) / Trent Hunter ($0.667m) / Eric Boulton ($0.163m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,033,333; BONUSES: $262,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,166,667 Nah, Semin's only plan B if Zach doesn't re-sign. I'm actually very intrigued about a line with Kovy, Zajac and Semin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Nah, Semin's only plan B if Zach doesn't re-sign. I'm actually very intrigued about a line with Kovy, Zajac and Semin. yeah, the best part of possibly re-signing Zach is that we'd have lots of cap space for the trade deadline while having a really solid team already and we'd be pretty attractive IMO. Getting iginla for Perry or the cup run would be fvcking insane since we need a good RW. Parise - Henrique - Iginla (sorry kid for trying to beat you up last year by the way) Kovy - Zajac - Clarkson Elias Josefson Zubrus Carter Gionta Bernier scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Semin's contract was 6.7 mil this past season. If Semin's top offer is in the 7 million dollar range that is still in the reasonable range for the potential that Semin is capable of reaching. Semin's reputation around the league is a negative, there is no way he gets $7 million from anyone. Even his own teammates called him out the past few seasons. The only teams looking at him are non-contenders who need to hit the cap floor: NYI in particular, but I can't see them offering anywhere near $7 million. His value has diminished in the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Not Zach news, but Suter's agent just announced no decision for Suter today lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 5 O'Clock Eastern Time. Any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 5 O'Clock Eastern Time. Any news? Status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Semin's reputation around the league is a negative, there is no way he gets $7 million from anyone. Even his own teammates called him out the past few seasons. The only teams looking at him are non-contenders who need to hit the cap floor: NYI in particular, but I can't see them offering anywhere near $7 million. His value has diminished in the past few years. Semin's reputation is way overblown. Dale Hunter was able to get solid play from him. Besides that Kovy had a reputation as someone who didn't play to his capacity night in and night out. In addition, he was also known for having zero defensive skills. Look at him now. Semin isn't like Zherdev, I'm sure he wants to redeem himself somewhere. Just no fighting for a while: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvxfXgFtiLU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Im perfectly fine with Semin replacing Zach, I just don't think the Devils will go for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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