Default Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Joe Nieuwendyk and Gary Roberts both sign 2 year deals with Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I know Sue -- yeah that's Epp - how can anyone look that dorky -- I mean it's like he's TRYING to look unctous but can't quite pull it off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 (edited) Joe Nieuwendyk and Gary Roberts both sign 2 year deals with Florida. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OK I DARE anyone to dubb THEM buttbuddies! Anyhow what I was going to say is so much for our whole stock market floor idea huh, Sue? Two old geezers sign for a crappy team in retirementville USA... man hockey has hit the skids afterall... Edited August 1, 2005 by Darwindog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Default Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Here is the proof.. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...801_134911_5260 They must have found a nice "community" down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils102 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Cool maybe things will start to pick up now. Isbister got traded from Edm. to Boston for a pick. I'm sure nobody cares but I thought I'd mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Joe Nieuwendyk and Gary Roberts both sign 2 year deals with Florida. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OK I DARE anyone to dubb THEM buttbuddies! Anyhow what I was going to say is so much for our whole stock market floor idea huh, Sue? Two old geezers sign for a crappy team in retirementville USA... man hockey has hit the skids afterall... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The stock market floor idea was another great idea never to be used. But Keenan is a coach who will play these two guys all the minutes they want. He loves vets. So it's a good fit for them - I can't say whether it will vastly improve Florida or not. But they'll play as much as they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterDevil Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 2.25 mil each per year. I think that's a little bit over paid. But then again, Newy's leader ship is probably worth that, and in order to get him the Panthers had to agree to get Roberts for the same price too. Good move though by Keenen, get some vetern leadership in there for his young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 If you think about it, it's more than half of what Elias is getting. It still doesn't seem right - still too high. But if Keenan wants to pay it...he'd better hope it works out. Because I just remember the days when he was spending money like a crazy man in St. Louis for absolutely NOTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMONPETEYD Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 He is trying to infuse leadership into his locker room. Not bad for 2 solid guys who are still capable players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 (edited) That's a $2M reduction in salary for Roberts and a raise of $250,000 for Nieuwendyk Edited August 1, 2005 by Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Here I'm about to make a joke about active seniors and Joe's just one year (and one day) older than I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruins4777 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 a combined 4.5 mil for 2 burned out players who will play 40 games but provide leadership in those 4 games. genius iron mike. when you should have gone for proven defense you went the typical route of burned out leader good job. hopefully some of their leadershpi will trasnfer over to the rest of hte locker room. p.s. 5 bucks says either roberts or nieuwy are the new captain upon arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterDevil Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 My vote is for Niewy. If they don't make Niewy the captian their of that young team they are morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 For such a young team, I think this is step in the right direction by Keenan. You can help talent bloosom through strong leadership. All they need is a veteran defensemen to help develop the backline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Ugh. That is just awful. Sue, Keenan isn't the coach. That job falls on Jacques Martin. True. Florida needs leadership. But this reeks of a Rangeresque kind of move. Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Ugh. That is just awful. Sue, Keenan isn't the coach. That job falls on Jacques Martin. True. Florida needs leadership. But this reeks of a Rangeresque kind of move. Man. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're right. I keep forgetting they hired the guy (I wouldn't want to be employed by Keenan). It's not the move itself I have a problem with, though. It's the $$$. Joe shouldn't be making more than $750K and Gary not more than $1.5, if that. But Keenan never let price get in the way of what he wanted to do in the old days and I guess he's not going to let it stand in his way now - cap or no cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 keep in mind that florida's cap number was very low and they needed to get to where they could get some revenue sharing $$. this works because it's an easy one year signing that might work out and might not. its relatively risk free and does provide leadership for a young team. i actually think that it was a good move for the panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this is SO FREAKING BORING!!!! ti's like the lockout all over again... :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 The difference with the Rangers and their UFA's is that they HAD NO YOUTH. Everyone was old on that team. Florida has one of the youngest rosters in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 I think Nieuwy does have a year left or so, not sure about Roberts though I remember him having a good first half with Toronto in '04? But it was basically a package deal anyway and when Lyle Odelein qualifies as 'veteran leadership' they did need to do something on that front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I think it's a very good move for the Panthers too. There's Four Stanley Cups and 250 playoff games at least between the two of them. What better guys to bring into a locker room? These guys love the game more than life itself. This isn't Rangersesque. Rangersesque would be signing a guy like Nedved to get yourself over the cap number. I think Keenan's brought in two solid veterans here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 With all the news I forgot, can you go over the cap? What was the penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueNJ97 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 With all the news I forgot, can you go over the cap? What was the penalty? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only if you've got someone on IR and pick up someone to replace him. And as soon as that player comes off IR, you have to come back into compliance with the cap. But nothing I have seen tells you what the penalty is if you screw up. A week listening to Bettman and Campbell lecture you on your evilness?? That would be enough for me to slit my throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 penalties come in the form of lost draft pics and severe fines to the owner. i'm not sure what the numbers are in either case, but they are severe. reporting false revenue is an even greater offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Puddy Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I'm guessing there's no penalty... the transaction is just invalid. You have 1M cap room, you try to trade a draft pick for a guy making 2M, the league won't let you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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