Triumph Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 2.72 GAA and .895 save% aren't bad for a Q rookie. Sure, they're not bad for a Q rookie. They are bad for an NHL draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Sure, they're not bad for a Q rookie. They are bad for an NHL draft pick. How about trying not to be contrary and forensic for the hell of it? He's a friggin' 7th rounder who has a minimal shot to get into the NHL. Everyone knows that. If not for the Devils feeling sentimental, he never gets drafted at all. Just kind of nice to Marty's kid doing a little something, is all, even if it's not that significant in the grand scheme. He actually just broke the franchise record for the longest scoreless streak by a goalie (Anthony had a 194 minute, 28 sec run). The previous record had been set during the 1997-98 season. Having a "not bad" Q rookie season isn't putting him on some sort of fast track to the NHL, and I'm not suggesting as much. His numbers were pretty bad for a bit and he wasn't getting much playing time. Now he's enjoying a little run and getting some appearances. Good for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hard to get updates on Miles Wood because the prep league he plays charges $150 to get stats which is ridiculous when the stats for the schools out in Minnesota are free. Apparently entering 2014 he had 17 points in 10 games. He's up to 13 games played now. Haha, I kinda like that. Soak the parents. I realized the other day this is probably why AHL Live costs so much. How about trying not to be contrary and forensic for the hell of it? He's a friggin' 7th rounder who has a minimal shot to get into the NHL. Everyone knows that. If not for the Devils feeling sentimental, he never gets drafted at all. Just kind of nice to Marty's kid doing a little something, is all, even if it's not that significant in the grand scheme. He actually just broke the franchise record for the longest scoreless streak by a goalie (Anthony had a 194 minute, 28 sec run). The previous record had been set during the 1997-98 season. Having a "not bad" Q rookie season isn't putting him on some sort of fast track to the NHL, and I'm not suggesting as much. His numbers were pretty bad for a bit and he wasn't getting much playing time. Now he's enjoying a little run and getting some appearances. Good for him. I'm not being contrary, I'm just pointing out to anyone reading the thread that he's still a longshot to be even an AHL quality goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'm not being contrary, I'm just pointing out to anyone reading the thread that he's still a longshot to be even an AHL quality goalie. I think just about everyone knows that already...if his last name isn't Brodeur and his dad isn't Marty, he's not drafted. Actually forcing himself into getting some playing time for his Q team in his rookie year (and though he's put up some nice numbers lately, it's helped his cause greatly that Steeves hasn't been terribly good) is a nice little blurb. If he actually ever got to the AHL and wasn't completely in over his head there, then I think he exceeded expectations pretty dramatically. As long fiesty posts updates on him, I'll comment. Why not? Like I said, major longshot or not, it's still fun to see what Marty's kid might do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) How about trying not to be contrary and forensic for the hell of it? He's a friggin' 7th rounder who has a minimal shot to get into the NHL. Everyone knows that. If not for the Devils feeling sentimental, he never gets drafted at all. Just kind of nice to Marty's kid doing a little something, is all, even if it's not that significant in the grand scheme. He actually just broke the franchise record for the longest scoreless streak by a goalie (Anthony had a 194 minute, 28 sec run). The previous record had been set during the 1997-98 season. Having a "not bad" Q rookie season isn't putting him on some sort of fast track to the NHL, and I'm not suggesting as much. His numbers were pretty bad for a bit and he wasn't getting much playing time. Now he's enjoying a little run and getting some appearances. Good for him. It is kind of funny that a "favor pick" is doing better than most legitimate 7th rounders (who are all long shots anyway as know) It's kind of like winning $5 on a $2 scratch off Edited January 14, 2014 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) It is kind of funny that a "favor pick" is doing better than most legitimate 7th rounders (who are all long shots anyway as know) It's kind of like winning $5 on a $2 scratch off He was also named third star of the Q for the week of Jan 6-12. Like the scratchoff analogy. He could've gone to the Q and been awful. At least he's enjoying a little success. To be fair, it also doesn't hurt that he's playing for one of the better teams in his league. Edited January 14, 2014 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Tuesday 1/14KHLDinamo Minsk lost to Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk 6-0Artur Gavrus F: -4, 1 Shot, 11:02 TOISeason: 25 GP 1-2-3, -6, 8 PIM, 3.0 SH%, 1.3 SH/GP, 45.5 FO%, 11:44 ATOI It is worth noting that Dinamo Minsk is really, really bad. I still wonder where (if) he's going to play during the nearly month long Olympic break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ooof -4 in 11 minutes is pretty bad lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It is kind of funny that a "favor pick" is doing better than most legitimate 7th rounders (who are all long shots anyway as know) It's kind of like winning $5 on a $2 scratch off That's just it. He isn't doing better than most 7th round picks. There are ostensibly what, 75 starting goalies in all of junior hockey? Not all of them are drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So what are most 7th round picks doing? Not saying that Anthony is doing better or worse than most 2013 7th rounders, just wondering how you know what they're all doing, and how you're basing your comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Thursday 1/16KHLDinamo Minsk lost to Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg 2-0Artur Gavrus F: E, 9:17 TOISeason: 26 GP 1-2-3, -6, 8 PIM, 3.0 SH%, 1.3 SH/GP, 45.5 FO%, 11:39 ATOI-- Seems like he's been moved to wing and seen his ice time cut since returning from injury a few weeks ago. He played a MHL (major junior) game on 1/10 for Dinamo-Shinnik and was a -3 with 3 shots and won 11/23 faceoffs in a 6-1 loss.OHLWindsor lost to Sault Ste. Marie 6-0Ben Johnson LW: -2Season: 35 GP 17-11-28, +10, 16 PIMNorth Bay lost to Barrie 4-3 (SO)Ben Thomson LW: 2 Goals, +3* 1st StarSeason: 31 GP 12-10-22, +2, 64 PIM-- 16 points in 19 games since being traded to North Bay.Kingston lost to Niagara 6-3Ryan Kujawinski C: ESeason: 32 GP 16-11-27, +2, 27 PIM Program Note: You can check out D prospect Curtis Gedig tomorrow night on Big Ten Network at 9 PM when Ohio State takes on Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Devils being linked to a 21 year old Croatian F playing in Finland. Not to spam my own blog but I wrote a post about it here and put up some charts and videos with it. Original source is linked in there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Devils being linked to a 21 year old Croatian F playing in Finland. Not to spam my own blog but I wrote a post about it here and put up some charts and videos with it. Original source is linked in there too. Interesting...and bookmarked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Devils being linked to a 21 year old Croatian F playing in Finland. Not to spam my own blog but I wrote a post about it here and put up some charts and videos with it. Original source is linked in there too. You should spam your own blog, interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Thanks Fiesty. He seems like a bit of hot dog! I loved their goal song and how bout the "checkerboard" design on their jerseys? Couldn't believe in the interview he called another team sh>t in Finnish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Friday 1/17QMJHLGatineau lost to Baie-Comeau 6-4Anthony Brodeur G: 23 Saves on 29 ShotsOHLNorth Bay defeated Mississauga 4-1Ben Thomson LW: Goal, +1, 2 PIM (Unsportsmanlike)Kingston lost to Erie 6-3Ryan Kujawinski C: Assist (PP), -2WHLSwift Current lost to Brandon 6-5Graham Black C: 2 Goals, +2* 3rd StarKelowna lost to Victoria 3-1Damon Severson D: Assist, +1Myles Bell RW: -1NCAAOhio State lost to Minnesota 1-0Curtis Gedig D: -1, 1 Shot -- Was on for Minnesota's goal, gave Cammarata too much room and got beat to a loose puck in front of the net for the goal. Played a ton of minutes in all situations and was effective minus a few dicey plays against #1 Minnesota's swift, skilled forwards.North Dakota tied Bemidji State 1-1Derek Rodwell RW: -1, 6 Shots, 1 BlockMiami tied Nebraska Omaha 2-2Blake Coleman C: DNP (Collarbone Injury)-- According to this article, he won't return until next month.Boston College defeated Boston University 6-4Steve Santini D: Assist (EN), +1, 1 Shot, 2 BlocksHarvard lost to Cornell 3-2Alex Kerfoot C: -1, 2 Shots, 5/10 FaceoffsUSHSInformation on Miles Wood is limited but this is encouraging (New England Hockey Journal):"Noble & Greenough (10-3-1) – The Bulldog offense is on fire with 26 goals in its last three games. Junior forward Miles Wood recorded at least three goals in each of those three games." Other Not a Devils prospect but 20 year old Michigan State goalie, Jake Hildebrand, who attended prospect camp last summer is having a nice follow up campaign to a freshman year where he earned team MVP and Outstanding Rookie awards. He put up a 48 save shutout against Penn State last night while playing on a MSU team that isn't that much better than the newly formed D1 program at PSU. He now has a 2.21 GAA and .929 SV% in 17 games this season. He had a 2.35 GAA and .928 SV% in 29 games last year. He's not big but he comes out and plays his angles well and has smooth lateral movement in his crease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 About time Miles Wood put up some points, 1.4 PPG is absolutely terrible in high school system given his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Is Ben Thompson actually contributing to scoring? besides being an "energy" player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Is Ben Thompson actually contributing to scoring? besides being an "energy" player. He's got 13 goals in 32 games this year, so I'd say so. He's an overage player, but he's doing well this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's got 13 goals in 32 games this year, so I'd say so. He's an overage player, but he's doing well this year. Just looking at stats for other players that came to mind, it seems like he's somewhere between a pure goon projection (Janssen and PL3) and guys that basically turned into goons that can provide some offense occasionally (Dan Carcillo). As an aside, I hypothesized that his stats might be similar to Aaron Ashem. In his draft year, Ashem was more than a PPG player for Sarnia. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Saturday 1/18KHLDinamo Minsk lost to Avangard Omsk 7-2Artur Gavrus F: -3, 11:58 TOIQMJHLGatineau lost to Chicoutimi 4-3 (SO)Anthony Brodeur G: 24 Saves on 27 Shots, Stopped 2 of 3 Shots in SOOHLWindsor defeated Plymouth 6-2Ben Johnson LW: +3-- No goals in last 5 games, no points in last 3 games.WHLSwift Current lost to Kootenay 5-2Graham Black C: -2Kelowna defeated Victoria 5-3Damon Severson D: Assist, +1Myles Bell RW: 2 Goals, +2* 1st StarNCAAOhio State lost to Minnesota 4-2Curtis Gedig D: E, 1 BlockNorth Dakota defeated Bemidji State 4-2Derek Rodwell RW: Goal, +1, 4 Shots, 1 Block* 1st StarMiami lost to Nebraska Omaha 5-1Blake Coleman C: DNP (Collarbone Injury)Boston College defeated Maine 7-2Steve Santini D: +1Harvard lost to Colgate 4-2Alex Kerfoot C: Assist (PP), -1, 2 Shots, 0/3 Faceoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Sunday 1/19OHLWindsor defeated Sudbury 3-1Ben Johnson LW: E, 2 PIM (Check from Behind)Season: 37 GP 17-11-28, +13, 18 PIM-- No goals in his last 6 games, no points in his last 4 games. Not really having a huge age 19 season, wonder if he's a candidate to spend an overage season in juniors next year.North Bay defeated Niagara 5-1Ben Thomson LW: Goal (SH), Assist, +2* 2nd StarSeason: 33 GP 14-11-25, +5, 66 PIM-- 19 points in 21 games with North Bay.Kingston lost to Guelph 6-1Ryan Kujawinski C: -1Season: 34 GP 16-12-28, -1, 27 PIM-- Just 1 assist in his last 4 games.WHLSwift Current defeated Prince Albert 7-0Graham Black C: Assist, +2Season: 45 GP 21-39-60, +13, 37 PIM Edited January 20, 2014 by thefiestygoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Monday 1/20KHLDinamo Minsk defeated Barys 2-1 (OT)Artur Gavrus F: E, 1 Shot, 11:12 TOISeason: 28 GP 1-2-3, -9, 8 PIM, 2.9 SH%, 1.2 SH/GP, 45.5 FO%, 11:38 ATOI I came across this interview with ex-Devils prospect Kirill Tulupov (3/67 2006) who some of you may remember seeing highlight videos of his big hits on youtube from his Q days. The interview is old (12/7/2011) but is really insightful as he talks about a wide variety of topics including being a young Russian player in North America and what led to the Devils not signing him in 2008. Some interesting tidbits: PT: There have been some issues with a few teams and their Russian players. It must be difficult for the players due to huge cultural issues, language issues, feeling as though you are in an alien land, etc.Tulupov: There are many, many issues. It could even be the food, language, many things. Even friends. Talking. Not many Russian guys know English. You don’t want to be by yourself all the time. I don’t like when they always speak about Russians chasing money and they return home to get more money. It’s not really hard for us to sit a couple of games if we are doing something wrong. We are willing to change. There are not many people to support you and the media is always ready to rip on you if there comes a chance. Hard pill to swallow.------PT: You were drafted in 2006 by the New Jersey Devils. Your style of play seems to fit the Devils Organization perfectly. What happened? Why did they opt out?Tulupov: Right after the NHL draft they offered me a contract. My father still keeps it on the wall. He was very proud of me. The more so, because that Devils were the club where his favorite player Fetisov had played and coached. Long time ago he bought me Fetisov’s The Overtime. It was my guide book in the world of Hockey. I still keep it along with me. Under that contract my AHL money amounted to $33,700. It was the matter of discussion but the agent – my previous agent – backed off. He decided to turn it down without any negotiations. Two years later I was really high in their prospect system, I was the second best defenseman overall, and the sixth in the top 20 list. From the very beginning I moved up from 13th spot to 6th spot, almost double, and 2nd best defenseman right after Corrente, the very first round pick of 2006 – a defenseman too but they opted to let me go this time. You have to know Devils’ GM Lou to understand that he never offers something twice for a player taken in the 3rd round. I trusted my agent but I was wrong. One more year in Q as a 20-year-old somehow calmed me down.------PT: This past summer was very painful for the entire hockey world – first, the deaths of Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien and Wade Belak — and then the unimaginable happened when the Yaroslav Lokomotiv team died in a plane crash. I assume you knew some of those players, probably even played with them during your career.Tulupov: I had two good friends on the Lokomotiv team. One of them was drafted the same year with me in the New Jersey Devils. We played together in the National U-20. He was a 2nd round pick, the forward Alexander Vasyunov. And I was playing in the Q with another forward, Sergei Ostapchuk. Even now it’s very painful to think about. I was in Detroit at the time. It is an accident. It can happen with anybody, anywhere in the world. It is hard enough for us as hockey players, but I can’t imagine how hard it is for those close to these players. So terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Interesting - that AHL money thing must be after taxes. I also don't really buy it, players of his caliber also get signing bonuses, so yeah he would've only made 50k a year in the AHL before taxes but he also would've gotten a signing bonus of $60k or so every year. As for Ben Johnson, I don't think a player with an NHL contract can go back to junior for an overage season, can he? If the Devils don't sign him, he goes back into the 2014 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 Interesting - that AHL money thing must be after taxes. I also don't really buy it, players of his caliber also get signing bonuses, so yeah he would've only made 50k a year in the AHL before taxes but he also would've gotten a signing bonus of $60k or so every year. As for Ben Johnson, I don't think a player with an NHL contract can go back to junior for an overage season, can he? If the Devils don't sign him, he goes back into the 2014 draft. The one thing that seemed odd to me from Tulupov was that he was offered a contract soon after the draft according to him. I never really paid too much attention to that sort of thing but it seems like that is more reserved for 1st rounders and not 3rd rounders. I could be wrong though. I think you are correct on that NHL/CHL overage thing. I tried to look it up but couldn't really find anything but it would make sense that the CHL wouldn't allow overage players on NHL deals. I wonder if he's really worth signing, maybe a NCAA FA would offer more upside instead, especially from an offensive standpoint? Austin Czarnik is a 21 yr old junior C for Miami and has a 1.03 points per game rate in 103 career NCAA games. He was ranked by some scouting services for his draft years but his size hurt his value. F Cody Wydo from Robert Morris attended Devils prospect camp and in his age 22 season as a junior he has the 3rd highest goals per game rate for NCAA FA's at 0.68 and is averaging 3.41 shots per game. LW Kevin Goumas who is a 22 yr old senior for New Hampshire and attended Devils prospect camp in 2012 has a 0.93 points per game rate in 131 career NCAA games. He has a solid 10-18-28 line in 25 games and is averaging 3 shots per game. Those are just some names I'm throwing out there. Albany has a roster crunch with forwards but what I'm getting at is maybe the Devils are better off letting a guy like Johnson go and try to sign a FA prospect instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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