Janssen's Hit

[Devilish34]

Thanks for clarifying that. If that is indeed the standard, then a charging penalty is probably appropriate.

I've already heard multiple times that The Score actually timed it on screen, coming up with 1.33 seconds between the release of the puck and the hit. By my own "chimpanzee-1..." method of counting, I came up with somewhere between 1 and 2 seconds. That may be a little late, but well within the usual timeframe of just about all the 4th-liners in the league. That sort of "late" hit happens several times every game.

If Kaberle doesn't go into the boards awkwardly, that hit probably never would have been spoken of again.

I agree with you on your timing of the hit less than 2 seconds which is not late.

[littleton_devil]

Definitely late ... it came after Chris Neal's hit!!!

Edited March 4, 2007 by littleton_devil

[ice dog]

it was late, cam needs to know when to let up. i like cam and i'm sure he did not want to injur kaberle, he needs to show a little more intelligence when it comes to his game...i'm all for the human projectile mucking things up and banging bodies.

[emptynet]

It was a late hit, even when I saw it in real speed it was a late hit, no question. Kaberle was out of the play when he got slammed into. I like Cam, I like the way he plays, but I feel the suspension is fair. I cant support late hits like that against the boards. The initial hit was clean but late, but the scary part was seeing Kaberle hit what looked like head first into the wall.

[langsgirl]

I say late but not dirty.. not super late either like 1.5 seconds late. I also think not dirty cause while he was intending on hitting him.. he did not intend for him to fly over the ice into the boards head first.

Do we have a bunch of leafs fans on here voting? Ive never seen a survey get so many votes.!!!

[Reverend_Hellh0und]

one mississippi, two missi..i, BOOM!.

According to the rules. NOT LATE.

Kaberle should not have been admiring his pass.

If it were any other team but the leafs there would be no suspension.

Edited March 5, 2007 by Hellhound

[Devilish34]

I say late but not dirty.. not super late either like 1.5 seconds late. I also think not dirty cause while he was intending on hitting him.. he did not intend for him to fly over the ice into the boards head first.

Do we have a bunch of leafs fans on here voting? Ive never seen a survey get so many votes.!!!

[peteyvegas]

Because we know late when we see it. Pretty soon sombody's going to claim it was only a 1/2 second late. Man, if anything was a late hit, that was it. He's lucky he only got 3 games.

[devilsfan26]

Janssen hits late all the time. The reason this one is different is because Kabarle wasn't ready to take the hit. Usually Janssen's late hits are just pressing someone into the boards. With this one, Kabarle was a little further away from the boards and if you watch closely you can see he tries to get out of the way at the last moment, which is why Janssen ended up catching him up high instead of going shoulder to shoulder, which is what he tried to do.

[squishyx]

After you release the puck you are eligible to be hit for 2-3 seconds..the hit came before 2 seconds. count.. no seriously do it, stop saying it was late if you can't spare the mere seconds it takes to count on the video. It was a cheap shot to a player with his head down, and because he hit his head twice awkwardly it's got a lot more attention then it would have if he banged into someone on the boards and if he bounced right back.

Shoulod Cam have left up? I think so, but it wasnt late.

Edited March 5, 2007 by squishyx

[langsgirl]

As they said last night they timed it 1.3 seconds.

Thats not late.

[Reverend_Hellh0und]

I bet those who say this was a late hit spent 5 mins on Google could find "later hits" by a guy named Stevens......

It was no late hit.

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

where are you getting 2-3 seconds for a legal hit? are you just making that up? That's an insanely long time.

the rules for interference: http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule67.html

(NOTE 2) Possession of the Puck:

The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession.

doesn't say anything about 2-3 seconds anywhere, and i say the hit wasn't immediate. so it's interference at least, making the hit illegal.

[Reverend_Hellh0und]

where are you getting 2-3 seconds for a legal hit? are you just making that up? That's an insanely long time.

the rules for interference: http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule67.html

(NOTE 2) Possession of the Puck:

The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession.

doesn't say anything about 2-3 seconds anywhere, and i say the hit wasn't immediate. so it's interference at least, making the hit illegal.

[Devilish34]

i never watched the replay.. just when they were showing it that night - i didnt go back and watch so i was just estimating.

[emptynet]

It was illegal.

And 2 seconds??? Are you kidding me, anyone who thinks 2 seconds is long enough must have never played ice hockey. It was a late hit. I would be saying the same thing if it was a Toronto player who did it to a Devil player. Yes it was clean, but it was late.

If you've never been illegally checked where your going into the boards head first so fast that you cant even put your arms up to brace yourself then you have no idea. I speak from experience when I tell you it scares the $hit out of you.

[jsonnabend]

where are you getting 2-3 seconds for a legal hit? are you just making that up? That's an insanely long time.

the rules for interference: http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule67.html

(NOTE 2) Possession of the Puck:

The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession.

doesn't say anything about 2-3 seconds anywhere, and i say the hit wasn't immediate. so it's interference at least, making the hit illegal.

[GA Devil]

No question it was a late hit. However, you see players getting hit 1 or 2 seconds after playing the puck all the time in the NHL. All. The. Time. Normally I am not one to blame the victim, but Kaberle failed to do a couple of things:

1) Keep his head up

2) Realize who was on the ice with him at the time

3) Generally just protect himself

[squishyx]

this is beyond baffling how many people are blowing this out of proportion. The only reason anyone gives is a damn is he fell awkwardly and got hurt.

Watch a hockey game, people get hit al the time well after they have gotten rid of the puck. If you want to change the system fine, if you want to start calling everything after "immediate release of the puck" a lte hit fine, but make sure your crusade isn't using jansens hit as a cause.. his hit wasn't late when compared to every other hit that goes on every night.

If you want to argue it was mean spirted, bad intent, that he should have let up, not hit him at all i would 100% agree with you. But you have to seperate two things here.

this was not a late hit.

[jsonnabend]

this is beyond baffling how many people are blowing this out of proportion. The only reason anyone gives is a damn is he fell awkwardly and got hurt.

Watch a hockey game, people get hit al the time well after they have gotten rid of the puck. If you want to change the system fine, if you want to start calling everything after "immediate release of the puck" a lte hit fine, but make sure your crusade isn't using jansens hit as a cause.. his hit wasn't late when compared to every other hit that goes on every night.

If you want to argue it was mean spirted, bad intent, that he should have let up, not hit him at all i would 100% agree with you. But you have to seperate two things here.

this was not a late hit.

[devilsfan26]

No question it was a late hit. However, you see players getting hit 1 or 2 seconds after playing the puck all the time in the NHL. All. The. Time. Normally I am not one to blame the victim, but Kaberle failed to do a couple of things:

1) Keep his head up

2) Realize who was on the ice with him at the time

3) Generally just protect himself

[jasonnyc]

it was definetly late

like 2-3 seconds

he deserved a suspension, i mean, i know everyone wants to defend janssen, but cmon, in all honesty, it was late, and he went for his head, it was kinda dirty

Edited March 5, 2007 by jasonnyc

[jasonnyc]

It was illegal.

And 2 seconds??? Are you kidding me, anyone who thinks 2 seconds is long enough must have never played ice hockey. It was a late hit. I would be saying the same thing if it was a Toronto player who did it to a Devil player. Yes it was clean, but it was late.

If you've never been illegally checked where your going into the boards head first so fast that you cant even put your arms up to brace yourself then you have no idea. I speak from experience when I tell you it scares the $hit out of you.

[devilsfan26]

you can tell though that jannsen wanted to hurt him, he didnt even look at the puck when he passed it, he waited for him to get near the boards and hit him

Edited March 5, 2007 by devilsfan26

[langs15]

Not late in seconds but late in game speed...and dirty too. Cam shouldn't have done it..He has to control his urges. As much as I hate to say it, I think a 5 game suspension would have been more appropriate.