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[Jerzey Devil]

Her's a list of our UFA's and our cap space according to Capgeek...

http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=20

Cap space - $28,045,834

My predictions...

Forwards:

Zach Parise - 70 million/10 years (7 million cap hit)

Alex Ponikarovsky - 3 million/2 years (1.5 mil cap hit)

Ryan Carter - 4.5 Million/ 3 years (1.5 million cap hit)

Petr Sykora - Retires/leaves as UFA

Cam Jannsen - Leaves as UFA

Steve Bernier - 6 million/3 years (2 million cap hit)

Stephen Gionta - 8 million/4 years (2 million cap hit)

Defense:

Bryce Salvadore - Leaves as UFA

Peter Harrold - Leaves as UFA

Goalies:

Marty Brodeur - 8 million/2 years (4 million cap hit)

Johan Hedberg - Retires/Leaves as UFA

Cap spent 18 million, 10 million remains. Pipe dream, sign Suter.

Edited by Jerzey Devil, 12 June 2012 - 11:01 AM.

[Zubie#8]

I agree with everything except Bernier. Keep him at or under 1.25 per year, and Gionta will not be getting that much.

...just realized we are still stuck with Boulton

Edited by Zubie#8, 12 June 2012 - 11:11 AM.

[sundstrom]

i think you are crazy on some of these.

i'm not suggesting that all these players are signed by the devils, but this is the best they're going to get

parise i agree at 10/70
ponikarovski 2/4.5 (2.25mm cap hit)
carter 1/800k 1way
bernier 2/2.5 (1.25mm cap hit)
gionta 1/750k 1way
marty 1/4 (he's over 35 - makes no sense for him to sign a 2 year deal and nobody would give it to him) this one is tricky. i think if they strike out a lot on free agents and haven't given money out on new deals, marty might even get $5.2mm so he's not taking a pay cut. it's, of course, a massive overpayment but if its not cap affecting on the high side, it could conceivably be on the low side. i'm not sure the devils want to be like the isles and throw money at mid-level guys just to reach a cap floor.

[ThreeCups]

Her's a list of our UFA's and our cap space according to Capgeek...

http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=20

Cap space - $28,045,834

My predictions...

Forwards:

Zach Parise - 70 million/10 years (7 million cap hit)

Alex Ponikarovsky - 3 million/2 years (1.5 mil cap hit)

Ryan Carter - 4.5 Million/ 3 years (1.5 million cap hit)

Petr Sykora - Retires/leaves as UFA

Cam Jannsen - Leaves as UFA

Steve Bernier - 6 million/3 years (2 million cap hit)

Stephen Gionta - 8 million/4 years (2 million cap hit)

Defense:

Bryce Salvadore - Leaves as UFA

Peter Harrold - Leaves as UFA

Goalies:

Marty Brodeur - 8 million/2 years (4 million cap hit)

Johan Hedberg - Retires/Leaves as UFA

Cap spent 18 million, 10 million remains. Pipe dream, sign Suter.

No way does Gionta get 2M/year...not happening

[Jerzey Devil]

I probably did give Gio and Carter too much. Even better. More extra cap space.

[Zubie#8]

I would venture to say Carter is worth 1.5 million. He played amazing in any role he was put into, and he was huge in the playoffs. He is also a great guy to have in the lock room.

Edited by Zubie#8, 12 June 2012 - 11:14 AM.

[skullsmasher]

I hope Salvador stays he really stepped up big in big games and has always been a solid stay at home defender

[SterioDesign]

IF Bernier stays im sure he'd be willing to take a decent paycut after what he did, its gonna haunt him and he's gonna feel bad for the rest of his life. that being said i dont think it was his fault but still he's gonna feel easy with us i think lol

[BlueSkirt]

as I wrote, salvador is 36 and may be signed to just a 1-year deal.....we do have lots of D, but at this point its all speculation on who stays & goes.
I'd like to see him go & give younger players more ice time

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

parise i agree at 10/70
ponikarovski 2/4.5 (2.25mm cap hit)
carter 1/800k 1way
bernier 2/2.5 (1.25mm cap hit)
gionta 1/750k 1way
marty 1/4

I agree with most of this. Bernier and Brodeur possibly getting too much. Good contract lengths though (giving Gionta a 4 year contract is insane)

I'd add Harrold - 1/750k 1way

7th Dman / 4th line winger PP Specialist.

Edit: I'd probably be ok if all the final terms end up being ~150% of these also if the cap rises.

Edited by halfsharkalligatorhalfman, 12 June 2012 - 11:46 AM.

[sundstrom]

IF Bernier stays im sure he'd be willing to take a decent paycut after what he did, its gonna haunt him and he's gonna feel bad for the rest of his life. that being said i dont think it was his fault but still he's gonna feel easy with us i think lol

paycut? he made the league minimum after basically playing in albany for free. he will get 2 year 1 way offers from several teams. i would not be surprised if he someone gave him 2 years at $2MM a year. he is a good player that has a home on a 3rd line and can caddy on a 2nd line. on a 4th line, he's excellent.

as I wrote, salvador is 36 and may be signed to just a 1-year deal.....we do have lots of D, but at this point its all speculation on who stays & goes.
I'd like to see him go & give younger players more ice time

sal's gonna get a 2 year deal from someone. i'd expect 2/6 for sal. he'll get offers from 6 teams.

[Triumph]

bernier couldn't get a job in the NHL this year. not only did he take a paycut with new jersey, they didn't even sign him to an NHL contract until january. he had 13 points in 56 games as a devil. who is offering this guy 1M a season? what has he proven that the rest of his career didn't show? maybe if he were born in a western province, he gets that kind of offer.

[sundstrom]

bernier couldn't get a job in the NHL this year. not only did he take a paycut with new jersey, they didn't even sign him to an NHL contract until january. he had 13 points in 56 games as a devil. who is offering this guy 1M a season? what has he proven that the rest of his career didn't show? maybe if he were born in a western province, he gets that kind of offer.

to be fair, he sort of reinvented himself this year. I don't think he was looked at as a bottom six guy for sure. he was a failed 1st round top 6 guy. not all of those guys turn into valuable 3rd/4th line guys like that. and in a world with a $50mm floor, he's gonna get $1MM from someone.

[Triumph]

to be fair, he sort of reinvented himself this year. I don't think he was looked at as a bottom six guy for sure. he was a failed 1st round top 6 guy. not all of those guys turn into valuable 3rd/4th line guys like that. and in a world with a $50mm floor, he's gonna get $1MM from someone.

He had the same role in Florida last year. Yeah, Florida was terrible and missed the playoffs by a lot. But this is one of those cases where NHL GMs don't recognize when fringe talents can be valuable - they especially don't realize it when the player is of Quebecois or European descent. I don't see him getting a lot of other offers or really, going elsewhere.

[sundstrom]

He had the same role in Florida last year. Yeah, Florida was terrible and missed the playoffs by a lot. But this is one of those cases where NHL GMs don't recognize when fringe talents can be valuable - they especially don't realize it when the player is of Quebecois or European descent. I don't see him getting a lot of other offers or really, going elsewhere.

i don't disagree but when you're basically on stage for 2 months with very few others, you get noticed. the 4th line got enough publicity that they're all but guaranteed 1 ways in the NHL next year and for more than the league minimum. i think even peter harrold got that from this run.

[Chuck the Duck]

IF Bernier stays im sure he'd be willing to take a decent paycut after what he did, its gonna haunt him and he's gonna feel bad for the rest of his life. that being said i dont think it was his fault but still he's gonna feel easy with us i think lol

I doubt he's going to take a paycut. Capgeek had him making only $525,000 this past season on a 2 way contract. If anything, I can see him getting, at most, a 1 way deal at $1 million for 1 or 2 seasons.

Edited by Chuck the Duck, 12 June 2012 - 12:41 PM.

[SMantzas]

Parise-8/60 7.5 mill
Salvador- walks
Sykora-walks
Carter/Gio/Bernier- 1/750k
Ponikarovsky- 2/4 2 mill
Brodeur-1/3 mill

[CarpathianForest]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sal goes back to St. Louis. They need a veteran presence on their blue line.

[SterioDesign]

I doubt he's going to take a paycut. Capgeek had him making only $525,000 this past season on a 2 way contract. If anything, I can see him getting, at most, a 1 way deal at $1 million for 1 or 2 seasons.

paycut was the wrong word here (paycut from the guessed price from the OP)... im french as fvck give me a chance lol

what i meant is that the guy just can't get more than 1m, no chance

[ATLL765]

Parise: 10/65-70M - $6.5-7M/year
Poni: 2 years @ $1.5-2M per
Sykora: 1 year @ <$1.5M
Salvador: 1-2 years @ $2M per
Fayne: 3-4 years at $2-3M per
4th line: 1 year @ $750K-1M
Marty: 1 year @ $2-3M
Moose: 1 year @ $1.5M

Scrubs+Harrold: Let them walk as FA because we got a lot of young guys on D coming up and no need for goons like Cammer and Boulton.

Who I'd like to see signed/acquired this off-season: Another D-man, preferably one that can score a few goals, pass well, is at least 6'0" and most importantly has a very accurate/deflectable shot that Parise can hone in on better than he could on anyone's this season. I really think this is where Parise hurt the most this season without a guy like Martin or Oduya. Not saying I'd like them back, but a guy that has an quick, accurate wrist shot would be great.