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Not really. Gio is clearly the worst of the cbgb line. Bernier didn't produce, but he want the drag that Gio was/is on his linemates. For $600k that signing is acceptable.

How do you figure? Gionta created chances and killed penalties. Vernier couldn't even create a spark with his body let alone his stick

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How do you figure? Gionta created chances and killed penalties. Vernier couldn't even create a spark with his body let alone his stick

I mean, he was on the pk, but I don't know if I'd call it killing penalties.

Also ILWT did a write up on the line where they showed that Carter and Bernier both had better possession numbers away from Gio and that Gio had the worst numbers all around, though Bernier failed to do much of anything point wise with his time on the 2 & 3 line.

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I mean, he was on the pk, but I don't know if I'd call it killing penalties.

Okay if you say so, but you didn't answer the question, what did bernier do last year besides take up space and make the team worse? He was easily the worst player on the team last year. Ever since the boarding call in the finals he's been atrocious.

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Okay if you say so, but you didn't answer the question, what did bernier do last year besides take up space and make the team worse? He was easily the worst player on the team last year. Ever since the boarding call in the finals he's been atrocious.

I never said Bernier played well, just that he was not the worst. The worst forward is definitely Gionta. I'd take Bernier over Gionta without a doubt.

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I never said Bernier played well, just that he was not the worst. The worst forward is definitely Gionta. I'd take Bernier over Gionta without a doubt.

In previous seasons I would say that was true. Bernier looked like an even worse version of Ryder.

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I never said Bernier played well, just that he was not the worst. The worst forward is definitely Gionta. I'd take Bernier over Gionta without a doubt.

Okay I understood that but what are you basing that off of? He couldn't hit, he couldn't kill penalties, he could play on the PP. He had a worse points per game and goals per game than gionta. And he had a +/- twice as bad as gio. In fact it might have been the worst on the team if I had to guess. So how on earth did he, in any way, play better than gio?

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Points aren't everything and Gio shouldn't be on the pk and doesn't get any pp time.

Here's the ILWT article I mentioned: http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2014/6/29/5850108/cbgb-line-who-should-be-kept

Yeah I'm not going to read an article from someone else when I'm asking you a simple question. Okay points aren't everything, but they're something. Be that as it may, if points aren't worth anything to you, what exactly did bernier do that was beneficial to the team? Did he get in important fights to spark the team? Did he lay the lumber in a big spot to get the team going? Did he always created havoc in front of the net that led to goals? Did he cause turnovers that lead to goals? Did he get in on the forecheck every shift to create a lot of possession time? Or maybe backcheck hard every play to help out the d? Any of these things that you want from a forth liner? Because I watched every game just like everyone else on this thread and I didn't see any of that. Bernier was the biggest waste of space on this team and you've come up with zero valid points to argue that.

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Yeah I'm not going to read an article from someone else when I'm asking you a simple question. Okay points aren't everything, but they're something. Be that as it may, if points aren't worth anything to you, what exactly did bernier do that was beneficial to the team? Did he get in important fights to spark the team? Did he lay the lumber in a big spot to get the team going? Did he always created havoc in front of the net that led to goals? Did he cause turnovers that lead to goals? Did he get in on the forecheck every shift to create a lot of possession time? Or maybe backcheck hard every play to help out the d? Any of these things that you want from a forth liner? Because I watched every game just like everyone else on this thread and I didn't see any of that. Bernier was the biggest waste of space on this team and you've come up with zero valid points to argue that.

Didn't really have the time to fully respond myself while at work, plus it's difficult posting from a phone.

You're also putting words in my mouth. I never said Bernier was good or great, just better than Gionta, who, imo, is the worst forward on the team. Less bad doesn't necessarily mean good.

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Didn't really have the time to fully respond myself while at work, plus it's difficult posting from a phone.

You're also putting words in my mouth. I never said Bernier was good or great, just better than Gionta, who, imo, is the worst forward on the team. Less bad doesn't necessarily mean good.

At no point in the response did I say that you said bernier was good. I asked you for the 3,498th time what bernier did that was beneficial to the team.

I'm going to develop a blood clot in my brain from this conversation so I'm going to stop now. Good talk.

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