SterioDesign Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) the thing with advanced stats and toronto compared to us is that, leave 10 good scoring chances to Van riemsdyk or Kessel and they'll put 6-7 in... then put the same chances for NJ and they'll net 2-3 lol again shot quality and skills/precision from the shooter is not taken in considerations with stats and it makes a huge difference, i mean a tap in goal with both feet in the crease is a shot so is a wrister from the red line. Yet on paper its the same damn thing Edited March 12, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhkheg Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 TEAM - GR - PTS - MAX - DIFF TBL - 17 - 75 - 109 - (+6) PHI* - 17 - 73 - 107 - (+4) CBJ - 17 - 73 - 107 - (+4) NYR* - 16 - 74 - 106 - (+3)DET - 17 - 71 - 105 - (+2) ---------------------------- NJD - 16 - 71 - 103 - EVEN OTT - 17 - 68 - 102 - (-1) WSH - 15 - 70 - 100 - (-3) CAR - 17 - 65 - 99 - (-4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 that chart gives me alot of hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 One thing that bodes well for us. A lot of teams we are tied with/slightly ahead or behind, we have more ROW. NJ sits at 29: Toronto-26 Detroit-25 Ottawa-25 Washington-22 TB-28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Light night for score board watching tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yeah, NJ is being given these odds of making the playoffs according to the various sites: Hockey-reference Forecast: 41.4% Sportsclubstats Weighted: 58.4% Sportsclubstats 50/50: 39.4% I believe sportsclubstats weighted throws out shootout results entirely when predicting or treats them as a coinflip. Having the tiebreaker on just about everyone is nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer91 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Light night for score board watching tonight Games tonight don't really affect us no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Man why can't our captain throw big hits like this... Our captain already does enough to hurt his own team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Games tonight don't really affect us no? Bos-Mon is the only East game and Montreal is on the fringe of who we are chasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pev is out all season now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Our captain already does enough to hurt his own team! How in the hell? How does that guy even stay in this league with behavior like that. He's downright reckless. I always felt he was a Scott Stevens type, but jesus, keep your head up and pay attention when you throw your body like that. Edited March 12, 2014 by RizzMB30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 How in the hell? How does that guy even stay in this league with behavior like that. He's downright reckless. I always felt he was a Scott Stevens type, but jesus, keep your head up and pay attention when you throw your body like that. Yeah, I watched it a few times, and I really can't believe how badly he missed that check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pev is out all season now. If he's smart he retires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yeah, I watched it a few times, and I really can't believe how badly he missed that check. He was probably thinking "What would David Clarkson do?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 the thing with advanced stats and toronto compared to us is that, leave 10 good scoring chances to Van riemsdyk or Kessel and they'll put 6-7 in... then put the same chances for NJ and they'll net 2-3 lol again shot quality and skills/precision from the shooter is not taken in considerations with stats and it makes a huge difference, i mean a tap in goal with both feet in the crease is a shot so is a wrister from the red line. Yet on paper its the same damn thing Steve Simmons, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Steve Simmons, is that you? That would be Damian Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 the thing with advanced stats and toronto compared to us is that, leave 10 good scoring chances to Van riemsdyk or Kessel and they'll put 6-7 in... then put the same chances for NJ and they'll net 2-3 lol again shot quality and skills/precision from the shooter is not taken in considerations with stats and it makes a huge difference, i mean a tap in goal with both feet in the crease is a shot so is a wrister from the red line. Yet on paper its the same damn thing If two players scored 30 goals each - one all point shots and the other all from one foot out - which players 30 goals are 'better'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 3/13/14 Buffalo vs Carolina: Sabres San Jose vs Columbus: Sharks Florida vs Tampa Bay: Panthers NY Rangers vs Minnesota: Wild Toronto vs Los Angeles: Kings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 3/13/14 Buffalo vs Carolina: Sabres San Jose vs Columbus: Sharks Florida vs Tampa Bay: Panthers NY Rangers vs Minnesota: Wild Toronto vs Los Angeles: Kings gonna be barftastic rooting for Parise...at least for 1 night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 gonna be barftastic rooting for Parise...at least for 1 night Well, if it'll make you feel better maybe he won't have that much to do with the win. In any event, he made good on his promise that he wouldn't sign with the Rangers, so at least there's that. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Well, if it'll make you feel better maybe he won't have that much to do with the win. In any event, he made good on his promise that he wouldn't sign with the Rangers, so at least there's that. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I'm still kind of pissed at JP Parise for his idiotic "Yea Zach would love to be a Ranger" outburst DURING the 2012 conference finals. I think he was definitely interested at one point, but I don't think his wife was thrilled with being here. If not for her...maybe he would be a Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm still kind of pissed at JP Parise for his idiotic "Yea Zach would love to be a Ranger" outburst DURING the 2012 conference finals. I think he was definitely interested at one point, but I don't think his wife was thrilled with being here. If not for her...maybe he would be a Ranger Ehh, I'll take Zach at his word, and that JP was just blowing smoke. And if I recall correctly, JP just mentioned the Rangers because of Torts, who Zach apparently liked as his Olympics cassistant coach, and not about bleeding Ranger blue or some other such nonsense. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Carol Niedermayer, Carlos Gomez, and JP Parise. What do they all have in common? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 the thing with advanced stats and toronto compared to us is that, leave 10 good scoring chances to Van riemsdyk or Kessel and they'll put 6-7 in... then put the same chances for NJ and they'll net 2-3 lol again shot quality and skills/precision from the shooter is not taken in considerations with stats and it makes a huge difference, i mean a tap in goal with both feet in the crease is a shot so is a wrister from the red line. Yet on paper its the same damn thing Still going on with this. Phil Kessel is 2nd in the NHL in shots. You get shots on net and good things happen. Kessel is a great scorer, but he gets himself a lot of chances. JVR is the same and is 10th in shots on goal. There isn't such thing as great players that score a ton but don't get many chances. You know who has a better shooting percentage than Phil Kessel? Patrik Elias at 15.4%. Who else? Adam Henrique at 19.2 percent. They have 91 and 120 shots respectively. Phil Kessel has 253 shots. Do you think either is a better shooter or scorer than Kessel? Jaromir Jagr leads the Devils in shots and for most of the season has been the leading goal scorer. Last night he through a puck on net and went in. Not a great goal, but it was a shot. Zach Parise was never a great goal scorer, but he thought a good game for him was to get 6-7 shots on net. He understand that more shots you got...the better chance you'd have to score a goal. Look at his shooting percentage per season. It doesn't fluctuate too much, but the season he scored 45 goals....he had the 3rd most shots in the NHL. If you see an individual in the top 2 or 3 of NHL scoring who isn't in the top 10 in shots, you are most likely seeing a fluke goal-scoring season. Think Corry Perry in 2010-2011 with 50 goals. Never scored more than 37 in any other season. Also, the guys you think are top shooters, for the most part are not all that much better than the average NHL player. So shot shot quality is very important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Still going on with this. Phil Kessel is 2nd in the NHL in shots. You get shots on net and good things happen. Kessel is a great scorer, but he gets himself a lot of chances. JVR is the same and is 10th in shots on goal. There isn't such thing as great players that score a ton but don't get many chances. You know who has a better shooting percentage than Phil Kessel? Patrik Elias at 15.4%. Who else? Adam Henrique at 19.2 percent. They have 91 and 120 shots respectively. Phil Kessel has 253 shots. Do you think either is a better shooter or scorer than Kessel? Jaromir Jagr leads the Devils in shots and for most of the season has been the leading goal scorer. Last night he through a puck on net and went in. Not a great goal, but it was a shot. Zach Parise was never a great goal scorer, but he thought a good game for him was to get 6-7 shots on net. He understand that more shots you got...the better chance you'd have to score a goal. Look at his shooting percentage per season. It doesn't fluctuate too much, but the season he scored 45 goals....he had the 3rd most shots in the NHL. If you see an individual in the top 2 or 3 of NHL scoring who isn't in the top 10 in shots, you are most likely seeing a fluke goal-scoring season. Think Corry Perry in 2010-2011 with 50 goals. Never scored more than 37 in any other season. Also, the guys you think are top shooters, for the most part are not all that much better than the average NHL player. So shot shot quality is very important. Good scorers also knows how to position themselves and select their shots. Lets just take that whole text and resume it with.... Look at the shootouts... Every single guys has the same chance all alone with the puck, yet our guys simply cant put it in. Those are equal chances and theres a big difference in results right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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