thelastonealive Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/newark_gets_short_end_in_prude.html The city, with the Newark Housing Authority acting as its developer, was awarded roughly $15 million in back rent, relocation expenses and fines. But The Devils were awarded $15.3 million in unpaid parking revenue, capital revenue and excess taxes. Both amounts are due in 30 days, barring further legal action, according to the decision. In the future, the city will be obligated to pay $2.7 million a year to the Devils in parking revenue, practically neutralizing the average $3 million in annual rent payments to the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown01NJ Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Isn't the parking all privatized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 So much for all the people arguing the Devils were screwing the city by not paying. This can only help the Devils with the refinancing this summer, takes away a lot of uncertainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 That's a great ruling for the Devils. Basically playing rent free at an arena they take all revenue from for the next 25 years. If nothing else, it makes them much more attractive to potential new owners and it makes it extremely unlikely that the team will move from here during the term of that lease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 That's a great ruling for the Devils. Basically playing rent free at an arena they take all revenue from for the next 25 years. If nothing else, it makes them much more attractive to potential new owners and it makes it extremely unlikely that the team will move from here during the term of that lease. exactly. newark gets destroyed with this ruling though - because the devils take so much of the revenue the building generates as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Isn't the parking all privatized? The parking lots around the arena (except for the VIP parking deck attached to it) are privately owned. However, the City guaranteed the Devils in writing that they would get at least $2.7 million per year in parking revenue from the lot owners even though the city doesn't own the lots. Although the article doesn't say it, I'm sure the City thought that it could leverage the lot owners by demanding they pay a % kickback in parking fees otherwise face the City taking the lots through eminent domain. When the economy tanked in 2007-2008, the City lost their leverage because they couldn't afford to purchase the lots even through eminent domain proceedings and couldn't obtain financing for this legal maneuver. Great deal by the Devils and a horrible gamble by Newark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Oops, didn't see this thread. Posted an identical one in the Rock forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Told ya that Sharpe James signed a crooked deal with the Devils. Why do you think Booker wanted the building scrapped and has been so quiet about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 So anyone think this will help Vanderbeek find an investor now? I mean, this is pretty good news for the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 So anyone think this will help Vanderbeek find an investor now? I mean, this is pretty good news for the Devils. No really, it's an additional $3M a year in revenue, but what does that really mean when you owe a bajillion dollars, let alone a bajillion dollars that hasn't been paid and is gaining interest. Who knows what's going on with that, it's been real quiet for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 No really, it's an additional $3M a year in revenue, but what does that really mean when you owe a bajillion dollars, let alone a bajillion dollars that hasn't been paid and is gaining interest. Who knows what's going on with that, it's been real quiet for awhile. Well if anything, as Chuck said, they are essentially now playing rent-free and collecting all of the revenue the building generates. At the least, that would have to make the Devils somewhat more attractive for any potential investor/investors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Things finally going right for the Devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 exactly. newark gets destroyed with this ruling though - because the devils take so much of the revenue the building generates as well. Destroyed? Newark still gets $7 mill in annual parking revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Destroyed? Newark still gets $7 mill in annual parking revenue. and 100 million dollars from facebook. Edited April 4, 2012 by ben00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Destroyed? Newark still gets $7 mill in annual parking revenue. no, newark HOPED to get $7MM in parking revenue after guaranteeing the devils $2.7MM. They haven't gotten $10MM in parking revenue so they're making next to nothing on parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Don't cry too much for Newark. They knew, or should have known, what they were getting themselves into when they agreed to put public financing into this arena deal. Anyone who can read can see that all of the leading economic experts agree that publically funded stadiums, arenas, and ballparks do not generate enough revenue for the city to justify the costs associated with same over the life of the building. City's largely use the team and stadium to take "blighted" property and remake an area of their town to their liking (see, Washington's Verizon Center, Camden Yards in Baltimore), while also creating a place where new businesses are likely to open. The arena becomes a vehicle to drive investment in a certain area of town that usually needs it. Newark is beginning to see some of this, but it has taken way longer than most people thought when this deal was struck because of the economic turmoil that coincided with the arena's opening in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 As a NHL fan, Devils fan and a resident of New Jersey why don't I feel good about the decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 As a NHL fan, Devils fan and a resident of New Jersey why don't I feel good about the decision? I don't know. Does the ability to do basic math elude you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/corybooker/app_196506863720166 Live streaming right now. *Booker not sounding very happy with Vanderbeek. Edited April 4, 2012 by oofrostonoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Don't cry too much for Newark. They knew, or should have known, what they were getting themselves into when they agreed to put public financing into this arena deal. Anyone who can read can see that all of the leading economic experts agree that publically funded stadiums, arenas, and ballparks do not generate enough revenue for the city to justify the costs associated with same over the life of the building. City's largely use the team and stadium to take "blighted" property and remake an area of their town to their liking (see, Washington's Verizon Center, Camden Yards in Baltimore), while also creating a place where new businesses are likely to open. The arena becomes a vehicle to drive investment in a certain area of town that usually needs it. Newark is beginning to see some of this, but it has taken way longer than most people thought when this deal was struck because of the economic turmoil that coincided with the arena's opening in 2007. Just feel bad for the people that didn't vote for Sharpe James knowing how utterly corrupt he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 https://www.facebook.com/corybooker/app_196506863720166 Live streaming right now. *Booker not sounding very happy with Vanderbeek. Dude is so full of sh!t, just like the rest of them. "Newark is a city of hope" What a bunch of political bullsh!t. These guys signed this agreement and now have to abide by it and somehow it's Jeffs fault. Right. btw it's not Jeff Vanderbeeks job to clean up the city, THAT'S YOUR JOB BOOKER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Cory Booker is ripping Jeff Vanderbeek pretty hard right now. He's calling him a liar. Just called him a "high class huckster and hustler" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Booker is really trying to attack Vanderbeek here, good job Booker, try to take all the blame off yourself cause you suck at your job. Edited April 4, 2012 by Satans Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofrostonoo Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) "A Pathetic Penny Pincher" "Legally Manipulated, and exploited" "This Bamboozler" "One of the most despicable owners in pro sports" "We are going to the NHL" Just said.. ...."Please don't make this out to be a complete Bamboozlement by Jeff Vanderbeek" Edited April 4, 2012 by oofrostonoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Did they get Jeffs so called "promises" in a contract? If they didn't then that is their fault. If they really wanted this athletic facility and him to put all this money into job training then they should have put it into a contract. Booker is such a clown it's not even funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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