Coorslight Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I don't think anyone here has shown they are offended. I did acknowledge that in today's world it's a pretty dumb thing to say for any athlete, especially with the media trying to spin anything. Regardless, if you were a gay hockey player having to live with this kind of stuff, maybe you handle this differently. But it's also a pretty dumb thing for any Devils athlete to do an interview like this when Lou Lamoriello is your boss and controls if you make 700K and live a good life in the NHL or make 150K and tough it out in the minors. If you do read the Puckdaddy comments, not many are pissed at him for the cock-sucking comment, but rather how much of an idiot he comes off as. Many here might think that if this wasn't a Devil being interviewed. Edit: I do want to say one thing though: this comment shouldn't be taken lightly joke or not. Even if this is a joke, Cam is probably one example of hundreds and hundreds of professional hockey players. And if they are all making comments like this, joke or not (probably joking around), it's still a pretty damn problem and the reason the You Can Play Project exists. Are you serious? They were a bunch of guys sitting around shooting the sh!t. You're gonna tell me you've never made a comment along those lines, or even worse? He didn't bash gays, he didn't say because the guy is gay he was gonna beat the sh!t out of him. He was asked a question about if he heard someone was sucking cock what would happen, DURING a conversation about fighting, he said he'd beat the sh!t out of him. What's the issue here? The problem is all the people who are overreacting to something that is a non-issue. I don't care if he's a public figure or a paid athlete or whatever. He's just another guy chilling with his friends and shooting the sh!t. Get the fvck over yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Wysh is a sellout! What the fvck was his name on here? Poser wanna be writer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Are you serious? They were a bunch of guys sitting around shooting the sh!t. You're gonna tell me you've never made a comment along those lines, or even worse? He didn't bash gays, he didn't say because the guy is gay he was gonna beat the sh!t out of him. He was asked a question about if he heard someone was sucking cock what would happen, DURING a conversation about fighting, he said he'd beat the sh!t out of him. What's the issue here? The problem is all the people who are overreacting to something that is a non-issue. I don't care if he's a public figure or a paid athlete or whatever. He's just another guy chilling with his friends and shooting the sh!t. Get the fvck over yourselves. He's not chilling with his friends and shooting the sh!t. If he were, we wouldn't've heard it or about it. He's on a radio show available to anyone with an Internet connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 He's not chilling with his friends and shooting the sh!t. If he were, we wouldn't've heard it or about it. He's on a radio show available to anyone with an Internet connection. He also didn't gay bash. He wasn't talking about hating people for anything. He was talking about trash talking on the ice and playing the game the way it is on the ice. Is he fvcked? Yes he is but its because of the media and the pc crap filter everyone has to live by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coorslight Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 He's not chilling with his friends and shooting the sh!t. If he were, we wouldn't've heard it or about it. He's on a radio show available to anyone with an Internet connection. He played for the Blues for 4 years and grew up there, you don't think he could possibly know/been on that show multiple times already? Just cause we haven't seen other interviews doesn't mean he hasn't been on that show a bunch of times. Everyone needs to stop being so naive and overreactionary. He also didn't gay bash. He wasn't talking about hating people for anything. He was talking about trash talking on the ice and playing the game the way it is on the ice. Is he fvcked? Yes he is but its because of the media and the pc crap filter everyone has to live by. THANK YOU! Also, I don't think he's fvcked at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Its an FLV file, make sure you have VLC or a similar swiss army knife type video player to view it. http://www.sendspace.com/file/imclrn Thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 He played for the Blues for 4 years and grew up there, you don't think he could possibly know/been on that show multiple times already? Just cause we haven't seen other interviews doesn't mean he hasn't been on that show a bunch of times. Everyone needs to stop being so naive and overreactionary. I bet he has done other interviews with that show - that isn't the point. If you say something to your friends, it stays with your friends. If you say something on an Internet radio show in today's world, it can be heard by anybody. That's why it's not 'shooting the sh!t' - it's also not tea time in a Jane Austen novel, either, which is why I think in general this is a non-story. The anti-gay comments are whatever, par for the course, disappointing, but not unexpected. Everything else is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Are you serious? They were a bunch of guys sitting around shooting the sh!t. You're gonna tell me you've never made a comment along those lines, or even worse? He didn't bash gays, he didn't say because the guy is gay he was gonna beat the sh!t out of him. He was asked a question about if he heard someone was sucking cock what would happen, DURING a conversation about fighting, he said he'd beat the sh!t out of him. What's the issue here? The problem is all the people who are overreacting to something that is a non-issue. I don't care if he's a public figure or a paid athlete or whatever. He's just another guy chilling with his friends and shooting the sh!t. Get the fvck over yourselves. Have I said that stuff. Yes. But there is a huge difference as Tri pointed out. Anyway lets recap the event. I don't think anything has been written on any major news sites but a ton of blogs are all over it. Lets recap the response: Cam Janssen Makes Gay Joke, Calls Kings 'Fat Broads You Regret Bangin'' But man, talk about crossing the line. At least it's a real look into the mind of Cam Janssen -- and, unfortunately, likely the minds of many other players in the NHL -- but sometimes it's best if this stuff just stays out of public view.You have to imagine that Patrick Burke, the founder of the You Can Play Project, will be furious with the outward homophobia here. You have to imagine that the New Jersey Devils -- the team that just signed Janssen to another one-year contract -- will be furious as well. And the NHL? Well, given the ongoing crackdown when it comes to player safety, a player talking openly about injuring other players may not go over so well. And as for the repuation of Cam Janssen? Well, this will make him much more popular with some ... but with most, he's now a villain. One Possible Line Reading That Doesn’t Make Cam Janssen Sound Like A Homophobe People are angry, and they ought to be, but it's assumed that Janssen is saying he would taunt or fight or fvck with a player just because they're gay. But what if—just what if, man—he's speaking from a broader, third-person perspective, and pointing out, completely objectively, that in 2012's NHL a gay player would probably and unfairly be given a hard time? He'd better say he is, because if that's not the way he meant it, he's a wannabe gay basher or at least a guy not smart enough not to make jokes about being one. Cam Janssen gives stupid, homophobic, sexist podcast interview "You wanna be scary. You wanna put the fear of f------ God in people's eyes. And not just 'Oh I'm gonna beat you up.' No. I'm gonna catch you with your f------ head down and hurt you, because you're not gonna know I'm coming," Janssen said.Tomas Kaberle and Matt Bradley are among the players Janssen has hurt. They didn't see him coming because they'd gotten rid of the puck for several seconds before he hit them. That's illegal. Janssen's comments on that end are close to being as tone-deaf and misguided as his ideas on trash-talking, considering that the NHL has cracked down on illegal hits in the wake of a concussion problem that has bordered on epidemic. Keeping physical play in hockey while cutting back on injurious hits remains a topic of debate. It's fair to say, though, that deliberately trying to injure opponents shouldn't be part of the game. And on twitter: ryan lambert @twolinepassfor the record, there's a big difference between being a piece of garbage on the ice and off it. cam janssen is one of the few who are both. Patrick Burke @BurkieYCPWe'll be trying to reach out to Cam and the Devils over the next couple days to get a chance to educate Cam on what we do. Final thought: If players weren't using this language, we wouldn't have launched. Changing the culture is a slow process- requires patience. Justin @jtbourneSteering clear of Janssen talk for today (someone else is on it for tomorrow a.m.), but a quick note: Cam Janssen is a hockey dressing room. I could go on and on with your average twitterer or blog comment writer who is absolutely killing him. Anyway, Cam is good friends with Andy Strickland. He tweeted that Cam will be joining him tomorrow on the radio on 590 The Fan St Louis at 10:30 AM. Should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Holy hell this got blown out of porportion quickly. More pc bullsh!t to hear now. Now for arguments sake, I'm sure there are a few over religious nhl players who would refuse to be a part of that you can play pc bullsh!t project. The nhl can't force any of these guys to be a part of this program. Btw for the record I'm pro do whatever/marry whatever the hell you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Holy hell this got blown out of porportion quickly. More pc bullsh!t to hear now. Now for arguments sake, I'm sure there are a few over religious nhl players who would refuse to be a part of that you can play pc bullsh!t project. The nhl can't force any of these guys to be a part of this program. Btw for the record I'm pro do whatever/marry whatever the hell you want I understand some level of frustration, but we all agree Janssen is talking like he is shooting the sh!t with the guys. And say the way Janssen is talking is like your average young NHL player, and shooting the sh!t with the guys for NHL players is with each other in the locker rooms, hotels and planes. Isn't this a problem for a sport that is trying to make it more accommodating for gay NHL players? Edited July 13, 2012 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashline Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Not even anything serious. This is hockey and this is how hockey players talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I understand some level of frustration, but we all agree Janssen is talking like he is shooting the sh!t with the guys. And say the way Janssen is talking is like your average young NHL player, and shooting the sh!t with the guys for NHL players is with each other in the locker rooms, hotels and planes. Isn't this a problem for a sport that is trying to make it more accommodating for gay NHL players? Isn't this a problem in a sport that should be accommodating for gay players? I really don't know how much of a problem it really is. For some people they believe being gay is a sin. I'm sure there are nhl players who feel that way as well. There's a lot of layers of issues for this kind of stuff. I'm sure there are some gay nhl players who have kept it secret but why the hell would they even want to come out at this point. They would have so much attention paid to them by people who don't even care for the sport of hockey it would be insane. So is this stuff really a problem? Who knows but I would expect nhl players not to really give a sh!t about what others say. I really could care less about this whole nonsense and I'm glad this forum and tsn are the only real news outlets where I read about hockey. Because I have no interest in hearing the pc moral police rant about this waste of time. I've wasted enough of my own time on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Where was the outrage about this? Edited July 13, 2012 by Satans Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) My God do I hate this pathetic PC society we all live in now. Edited July 13, 2012 by Devilsfan118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Where was the outrage about this? what is this?! i am outraged and need to know this instant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Rattlehead18 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I am also on the side of anger. Angry at how this is considered homophobic. Maybe he meant that a cock sucker would definitely get his ass kicked because in his experience he has kicked the ass of 100% of the cocksuckers he has fought. Statistics can't make you a monger! Or because he was too busy sucking cock at the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Much ado about nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I don't get how Cam Janssen can be homophobic, he's on a 2-way contract! *tumbleweeds* OK, I do get it. Man is he stupid. And bad at hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This is blown way out of proportion - these hosts and Janssen had just been watching a lot of Deadwood recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Andy Strickland @andystricklandUnfortunately Cam Janssen has had to cancel our morning interview...have more later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 Patrick Burke @BurkieYCPWe'll be trying to reach out to Cam and the Devils over the next couple days to get a chance to educate Cam on what we do. Final thought: If players weren't using this language, we wouldn't have launched. Changing the culture is a slow process- requires patience. Yep it will be a slow and incredibly long process. Tons of hockey players and pro athletes and regular members of society talk this way and act this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Blown way out of proportion, like many of you are saying. Interviews like this make their way to like 100 people that download it. And once you start making it a big deal, that number of interest turns into like 30,000 people who want to know wtf Cam Janssen said.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Blown way out of proportion, like many of you are saying. Interviews like this make their way to like 100 people that download it. And once you start making it a big deal, that number of interest turns into like 30,000 people who want to know wtf Cam Janssen said.. and most likely "Who is Cam Janssen?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMazz Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) http://devils.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=637851 Statement from Cam Janssen. Sickening he even had to make a statement. Awful, the PC society that we live in now. This comment was taken completely out of context. As someone that is actually for gay rights I could even tell that Cam was talking about players on the ice...not homosexuals. Disgusting. Edited July 13, 2012 by TheMazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ugh.... What a joke, feel bad for the guy, this backlash is just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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