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#1 SMantzas

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 04:36 PM

Obviously. Brodeur will go down as one of the best of all time. But one thing that most anti-Brodeur supporters point to is the fact that he never won a Hart or Conn Smythe.

1) The Hart Trophy

2006-2007 was easily Brodeur's best chance at winning the Hart. He set the all time record for wins in a season (48) and passed Roy for most OT wins (45). He posted a 2.18 GAA and a .922 SVP with 12 shutouts. These numbers are flat out insane, especially considering this is only a year after the new rules. Crosby won it because he scored 120 pts, a very good number, but not out of this world.

2) The Conn Smythe Trophy

Brodeur didn't deserve the Smythe in 1995 or 2000. Claude Lemieux was money in 95 and we all are aware of Scott Stevens' impact in 2000. However, in 2003, Brodeur was 16-8 with a 1.65 GAA and a .934 SVP with 7 shutouts. J.S Giguere obviously put up great numbers, and I'm not arguing the decision, but it could have gone either way.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 04:43 PM

short answer no. long answer nope.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 04:48 PM

He definitely got shafted outta the Conn Smythe in 2003. 3 SHUTOUTS in the FINALS?!?!? I was in attendance at Game 7 and was shocked when they announced Giguere. It was worth it to see Jiggy crying a river of tears into his straggly beard while Marty skated around the ice in his fresh out-of-the-box 2003 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS hat while he lifted his arms up and down as if he were pumping the Cup. CLASSIC MOMENT!
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 04:48 PM

Brodeur is/was not as good as Roy and Hasek. I can live with it. You have to be a great player to even be in that conversation.

He and Scott Stevens are the most important players in the history of a franchise that won three championships with them as leaders. 1 and 1a.

The Conn Smythe and Hart ... eh, it's peripheral to me.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 04:52 PM

He definitely got shafted outta the Conn Smythe in 2003. 3 SHUTOUTS in the FINALS?!?!? I was in attendance at Game 7 and was shocked when they announced Giguere. It was worth it to see Jiggy crying a river of tears into his straggly beard while Marty skated around the ice in his fresh out-of-the-box 2003 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS hat while he lifted his arms up and down as if he were pumping the Cup. CLASSIC MOMENT!


I've mellowed about it as the years have passed, but I was angry when a Devil didn't win the award (Brodeur or Niedermayer). I wanted the victor getting all the spoils. I booed the announcement, I admit it.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 05:06 PM

I've mellowed about it as the years have passed, but I was angry when a Devil didn't win the award (Brodeur or Niedermayer). I wanted the victor getting all the spoils. I booed the announcement, I admit it.



All 19,040 at CAA booed! "MARTY'S BETTER!!!"
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 05:11 PM

All 19,040 at CAA booed! "MARTY'S BETTER!!!"


Yeah, I remember like it was yesterday. And Brodeur's reaction was pure class.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 05:23 PM

Yeah, I remember like it was yesterday. And Brodeur's reaction was pure class.


What was Brodeurs reaction? I never really noticed it

Edited by lucifer91, 10 February 2011 - 05:23 PM.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 05:57 PM

What was Brodeurs reaction? I never really noticed it


He motioned for the crowd to calm down, then pretended to lift the Cup over his head, signaling that the Cup was the biggest prize.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 06:17 PM

Giguere winning the CS is another example of how corrupt the NHL is.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 06:18 PM

Yeah lets open the 03 wound again...
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 06:59 PM

I've mellowed about it as the years have passed, but I was angry when a Devil didn't win the award (Brodeur or Niedermayer). I wanted the victor getting all the spoils. I booed the announcement, I admit it.


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Posted 10 February 2011 - 07:51 PM

The Hart pissses me off too
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:21 PM

I vividly remember laughing at Giguere crying his pansy eyes out in '03. He definitely didn't deserve the Conn Smythe over Broduer. It was ridiculous that he didn't get it that year, but it's really not a huge deal because we got the real prize, Lord Stanley's Cup.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:25 PM

short answer no. long answer nope.


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Posted 10 February 2011 - 10:54 PM

Hart is stupid. Conn Smythe is whatever. If you win it that means you probably won the Cup so it's really just a bonus prize that doesn't mean all that much. Brodeur probably deserved it in 03 but who cares. People remember the Cup winner not the Smythe winner.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:06 PM

even if he did get the "short end of the stick", he's still a future hof goalie, and a multi-millionare, so you cant feel bad
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:08 PM

Hart is stupid. Conn Smythe is whatever. If you win it that means you probably won the Cup so it's really just a bonus prize that doesn't mean all that much. Brodeur probably deserved it in 03 but who cares. People remember the Cup winner not the Smythe winner.


True, but the Conn Smythe would have been a nice piece of hardware to add to Marty's resume
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:12 PM

I've mellowed about it as the years have passed, but I was angry when a Devil didn't win the award (Brodeur or Niedermayer). I wanted the victor getting all the spoils. I booed the announcement, I admit it.

I was there too and I booed hard as hell. I'm still booing.
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Posted 10 February 2011 - 11:15 PM

Jiggy's reaction was the worst part IMO. I felt like fine. If you don't want it give it to someone who does.
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