Triumph Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 i'd like to clear this out, or for anyone else who would want us to go for semin... let me get this straight... you guys would want Semin... a sniper... super soft and not physical and not going in the corners to play in a team with a system oriented in dump and chase and play the whole shift fighting along the boards and making all their plays on the outside... doesnt make any sense to me, with our system we need warriors. Soft guys with speed and good hands and no grit are absolutely useless in NJ's system. Semin would pretty much be GUARANTEED to have his worst season ever in NJ The Devils adapted a dump and chase system out of necessity. Kovalchuk was their main transition offensive player - he's capable of making plays in traffic, of backing off defenders, etc. But when he's hobbled as he was, that option was gone. Teams were also playing solid defense against NJ - there weren't that many chances in transition. Semin is almost as good as Parise at forcing pucks off players' sticks. He's not going to go into the corners and forecheck that way, but he is definitely excellent at forcing turnovers. I don't see why a player like him couldn't be worked into the system NJ has got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMazz Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The Devils adapted a dump and chase system out of necessity. Kovalchuk was their main transition offensive player - he's capable of making plays in traffic, of backing off defenders, etc. But when he's hobbled as he was, that option was gone. Teams were also playing solid defense against NJ - there weren't that many chances in transition. Semin is almost as good as Parise at forcing pucks off players' sticks. He's not going to go into the corners and forecheck that way, but he is definitely excellent at forcing turnovers. I don't see why a player like him couldn't be worked into the system NJ has got here. Because as much as I wouldn't mind Semin he wants too much money for the inconsistent play he creates... thats why I don't think the Devils will chase Semin, he wants 6.5 Mil for a 4-4.5 mil player, I'm not sure he's worth the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Man Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 According to this guy (whoever he is), there's zero chance that Zach is returning. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/devils-red-wings-aim-parise-185100430--nhl.html With the New Jersey franchise teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, there is no way Parise returns to the Devils, not with the kind of stability and payday that await him in any number of other cities.And who can blame him? Would you want to make a long-term commitment to an employer whose financial situation is so tenuous when you have dozens of other options available? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 According to this guy (whoever he is), there's zero chance that Zach is returning. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/devils-red-wings-aim-parise-185100430--nhl.html No new info just the usual speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 29th Pick Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 According to this guy (whoever he is), there's zero chance that Zach is returning. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/devils-red-wings-aim-parise-185100430--nhl.html Yeah he's just basing this on our finance problem...............something nobody really knows how bad or close to being resolved it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The Devils adapted a dump and chase system out of necessity. Kovalchuk was their main transition offensive player - he's capable of making plays in traffic, of backing off defenders, etc. But when he's hobbled as he was, that option was gone. Teams were also playing solid defense against NJ - there weren't that many chances in transition. Semin is almost as good as Parise at forcing pucks off players' sticks. He's not going to go into the corners and forecheck that way, but he is definitely excellent at forcing turnovers. I don't see why a player like him couldn't be worked into the system NJ has got here. its pretty well known that Semin is inconsistent and has no heart, i dont want anyone like that in NJ especially when the guy with arguably the bigger heart in the league left and youre trying to replace him. and they played that way most of the season, thats devils hockey, our guys are facing the boards in the ozone for the whole shift not creating chances in front unless they are coming from behind the net or from a point shot. Guys like Semin, Cammalleri, gaborik wouldnt produce as much as they could in NJ's system, they are all snipers scoring from the inside. Devils are simply not even trying to go down the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njd3b1ink Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 @TGfireandice: Won't talk about that. RT @Nmm90392: @TGfireandice did Lou meet with zach or his agent yet? Tg just tweeted this. I dont think there really is anything to look into with this. Just seems like Lou's normal "status quo" stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 @TGfireandice: Won't talk about that. RT @Nmm90392: @TGfireandice did Lou meet with zach or his agent yet? Tg just tweeted this. I dont think there really is anything to look into with this. Just seems like Lou's normal "status quo" stance. i hope not... but for some reasons when i read that it came out kinda odd to me... i dont know if TG said he wouldnt talk about that or if Lou or Zach wouldnt talk about that? coming from TG its weird... he's a reporter and he'd most likely report anything he knows and he's usually open and would just say he hasnt heard anything not that he "wouldnt" talk about something... anyways... thats exactly what we needed... to possibly lose our 2 assistant coaches just so Zach have that extra uncertainty about the team, thank god Deboer is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 TG said he was not going to comment on the Parise stuff daily until there is something to report. He is doing a status quo thing he bitches about every time. I guess I would be sick of replying to a billion qs too if i had nothing to report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 TG said he was not going to comment on the Parise stuff daily until there is something to report. He is doing a status quo thing he bitches about every time. I guess I would be sick of replying to a billion qs too if i had nothing to report. yeah thats absolutely true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice Parise: "We’re definitely talking with the team. That’s pretty much all I can say about it.” Sweet! Edited June 26, 2012 by ZeroGravityFat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 so there goes a bunch of quotes from zach! Time to read way to much in every single one of them! "Parise said "It really is a big loss for us" that Adam Oates left to be Caps head coach." HE SAID US !!!!! US !!!!! MEANS HE'S SIGNING TO A SUPER LOW CAP HIT WITH US FOREVER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 HE SAID US !!!!! US !!!!! MEANS HE'S SIGNING TO A SUPER LOW CAP HIT WITH US FOREVER Lets hope so, this is like the third subtle thing he said about the team since break up day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 so there goes a bunch of quotes from zach! Time to read way to much in every single one of them! "Parise said "It really is a big loss for us" that Adam Oates left to be Caps head coach." HE SAID US !!!!! US !!!!! MEANS HE'S SIGNING TO A SUPER LOW CAP HIT WITH US FOREVER I wouldn't read much into it. He's still a Devil until July 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Rich Chere @Ledger_NJDevilsZach Parise, who confirms his agents are speaking with the Devils, is working out. Expect to speak to him further later today. Tom Gulitti @TGfireandiceIf it means anything, Parise said "It really is a big loss for us" that Adam Oates left to be Caps head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Heart just fvcking stopped. Its a fake Some idiot just RT'd this now... https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger_/status/217450587703345152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Heart just fvcking stopped. Its a fake Some idiot just RT'd this now... https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger_/status/217450587703345152 Fuuuuck that looks so real too, how do u know it's fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Heart just fvcking stopped. Its a fake Some idiot just RT'd this now... https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger_/status/217450587703345152 Glad I missed that train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Glad I missed that train. Yea.. I would have pissed myself, then sh!t myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Fuuuuck that looks so real too, how do u know it's fake? Well, the time stamp on it says June 25th at 7:53pm. Plus, it'd be all over the webs in 30 seconds if it were true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Fuuuuck that looks so real too, how do u know it's fake? It's from DarrenDreger_, not DarrenDreger. Also Darren Dreger would never tweet with a bunch of hashtags like that. Unless you're pulling my chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Fuuuuck that looks so real too, how do u know it's fake? Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger_ Not Official twitter of TSN's Hockey Insider Darren Dreger. ha and then the real Dreger posts this.. Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger I'm told a fake account claiming to me is reporting a trade. Disregard any account with my name attached that isn't verified. Edited June 26, 2012 by squishyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Parise on @NHLHomeIce "Met with my agent and we're going to continue today. Still talking to Lou & were going to try & get that worked out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Parise on @NHLHomeIce "Met with my agent and we're going to continue today. Still talking to Lou & were going to try & get that worked out." *pulse rising* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 *pulse rising* More Parise: "if it does get to July 1st it's going to be a bit overwhelming but my agent is doing a good job preparing me for that day." *pulse becoming very irregular* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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