coldply123 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sorry for the delayed response everyone...busy time of the year He said players have little or no contact with the front office. There is no frustration with the coach but the team has turned very negative. He said DeBoer is super smart and approachable. (I won't repeat what I said about Sutter and he agreed) With that being said, he said there needs to be a fresh start... trades, coach, etc.. all in play Pretty much what a lot of us think and how we feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 He said players have little or no contact with the front office. There is no frustration with the coach but the team has turned very negative. He said DeBoer is super smart and approachable. (I won't repeat what I said about Sutter and he agreed) With that being said, he said there needs to be a fresh start... trades, coach, etc.. all in play Bolded is absolutely something that was always alluded to. "Lou is the mafia. You never talk to him." As for Elias' dislike of Sutter - well we all knew that. And Elias was right to be upset at him the way he was treated vis a vis taking away the C from him. I know this wasn't the original point of the thread but it's worth continuing the conversation. This isn't a "bash Lou" comment - but I do think that a fresh attitude from the GM - one of some inclusion might be a welcome change. Maybe I'm naive, but get the sense that other GM's are more present with their players. Then again, it's possible it's an age thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Bolded is absolutely something that was always alluded to. "Lou is the mafia. You never talk to him." As for Elias' dislike of Sutter - well we all knew that. And Elias was right to be upset at him the way he was treated vis a vis taking away the C from him. I know this wasn't the original point of the thread but it's worth continuing the conversation. This isn't a "bash Lou" comment - but I do think that a fresh attitude from the GM - one of some inclusion might be a welcome change. Maybe I'm naive, but get the sense that other GM's are more present with their players. Then again, it's possible it's an age thing. I dont know about other GMs but that reminds me of when Eller got nailed hard by Gryba. He got off the ice on a stretcher and all. As soon it happened Bergevin literally RAN to the wife's suite to see Eller's gf, he was in tears apparently (he's crying really easily though lol) and then RAN down to make sure he could see Eller before he left in the ambulance. From comments i've seen from the players they like Bergevin a lot for stuff like this compared to the other GMs they had before where there was no exchange almost. To be fair i think Lou can't run at all lol but anyway... just gave a little story to add to what you were saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Bolded is absolutely something that was always alluded to. "Lou is the mafia. You never talk to him." As for Elias' dislike of Sutter - well we all knew that. And Elias was right to be upset at him the way he was treated vis a vis taking away the C from him. I know this wasn't the original point of the thread but it's worth continuing the conversation. This isn't a "bash Lou" comment - but I do think that a fresh attitude from the GM - one of some inclusion might be a welcome change. Maybe I'm naive, but get the sense that other GM's are more present with their players. Then again, it's possible it's an age thing. Like I said many years ago Sutter is a xenophobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I dont know about other GMs but that reminds me of when Eller got nailed hard by Gryba. He got off the ice on a stretcher and all. As soon it happened Bergevin literally RAN to the wife's suite to see Eller's gf, he was in tears apparently (he's crying really easily though lol) and then RAN down to make sure he could see Eller before he left in the ambulance. From comments i've seen from the players they like Bergevin a lot for stuff like this compared to the other GMs they had before where there was no exchange almost. To be fair i think Lou can't run at all lol but anyway... just gave a little story to add to what you were saying. To be fair, Lou rode in the ambulance with Elias when he got the concussion in Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What they are going through now remindes him of the John MacLean time...and that should say a lot. Yeesh. That's unsettling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarDew Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) He is a really nice guy. Back when I was in constant bone surgery mode, he kept in contact with a mutual friend and would ask for updates and sent well wishes. Nice printer. I just got a Pixma MX722. I don't think they make them anymore but it was dirt cheap on Black Friday. LOL What really struck me about Patrik, was how humble, soft spoken, thoughtful and honest he was. I could not be more impressed with him and he is truly what Lou means by having players with real character And BTW, I didn't ask him to sign anything (I have a good collection of his stuff already) but he insisted and handed me a few posters which he signed.And for those of you that have Facebook https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204700825673009&set=a.4516587805250.2168982.1607395833&type=1&theater Edited December 18, 2014 by StarDew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) To be fair, Lou rode in the ambulance with Elias when he got the concussion in Colorado.Ah well there. Always to hear those storiesEdit: do you know if he cried though?...... Haha Edited December 18, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Ah well there. Always to hear those stories Edit: do you know if he cried though?...... Haha Hahaha maybe he did! I do remember hearing that he cried when he broke the news to Cam that he was traded to St Louis, but who knows if that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Lou has developed relationships with the guys who have fashioned themselves as true Devils. Elias, Stevens, Daneyko, MacLean, Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Lundegaard Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Everything about this was great, until the very end when you said free agency and trades aren't options to turn the team around. That makes absolutely no sense. Besides that a really good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hahaha maybe he did! I do remember hearing that he cried when he broke the news to Cam that he was traded to St Louis, but who knows if that's true. I thought it was Cam who cried there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Everything about this was great, until the very end when you said free agency and trades aren't options to turn the team around. That makes absolutely no sense. Besides that a really good post Who is available via free agency that would improve this team? What excess assets can we trade without hurting this team more than helping it? If you can answer those questions with legitimate possibilities then you can say that he makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Everything about this was great, until the very end when you said free agency and trades aren't options to turn the team around. That makes absolutely no sense. Besides that a really good post There is not a player available this off-season in free agency who will change this team. There are no 1st line players available this off-season. The Devils don't have significant trading chips except for their 1st round pick this year. There's not someone in the Devils' organization who isn't in the NHL who is worth a lot on the trade market. So any trade NJ makes will have to use players already on the roster. That sort of deal, absent a Schenn-for-JVR or Erat-for-Forsberg kind of trade that only happens in the NHL a few times a decade, isn't going to massively improve the team. The draft is really their only salvation. Edited December 18, 2014 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 i just watched second heaven and forgot just how good Elias was. His speed used to be a tremendous asset, not only straight away speed but his agility. Not to mention he was a good shooter back then as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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