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Poll: Lockout 2012-2013 (Hockey's back!) (130 member(s) have cast votes)

When will we see hockey?

  1. Oct 12 (10 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  2. Nov 12 (19 votes [14.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.62%

  3. Dec 12 (26 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. Jan 13 (33 votes [25.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.38%

  5. Feb 13 (1 votes [0.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.77%

  6. Mar 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Apr 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Oct 13 (14 votes [10.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.77%

  9. Never (27 votes [20.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.77%

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#621 Zubie#8

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:40 PM

Both sides are meeting again tmrw. Neither side are saying anything, silence is golden!
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:46 PM

Good news, sounds like the league was ready to walk if no progress was made today, but since they're meeting tomorrow, I assume there was progress.
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#623 SMantzas

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 09:56 PM

One positive from lebrun

"This could still fall apart, but I’m ready to state that I believe there’s a better chance of a deal getting done than not at this stage."

http://espn.go.com/b....r-day-of-talks

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#624 DevsMan84

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

Mixed messages from the experts from Twitter in terms of how likely these talks will lead to a new CBA. Possibly reflecting how the talks are progressing at this point or just the lack of information available.

Cautiously hopeful at this point for me.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:33 AM

I am hopeful too. If nothing comes of this I think it will be disastrous for the players.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 11:36 AM

18 hours in meetings over the past few days..it sure seems like that's a good sign
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:03 PM

From what I am seeing on Twitter and after reading the leaked Don Fehr memo it doesn't look too good. NHL still sticking to immediate 50/50 split.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

One more breakdown in talks, then a compromise in late November. I do fear that the NHLPA doesn't have much leverage unless it starts threatening the entire season though.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:35 PM

I was very hopeful until a couple of minutes ago after I read the Fehr memo. I just want a decision made one way or the other as to whether or not we're having a season this year. I'm so tired of reading this garbage everyday.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

For me the season is already over. If it is actually cancelled, then my season tickets are cancelled as well.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib

#NHL #NHLPA talks have broken off for now, and not in a good state, I'm told. NHLPA having conf. call with Exec. Board/Neg Committee soon
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

Gee there's a fvcking surprise. Fvck them all until someone decides to compromise.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

I like others feel this is the last chance for a season, and if they fail this will hurt the NHL bad!
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

https://twitter.com/...063642581782528

"This is going to be a mess tonight. Accusation that Fehr withheld NHL's offer from PA is very serious. Would expect that to be addressed..."

https://twitter.com/...065266679197699

"@FriedgeHNIC Vibe I got, even as early as Tuesday, was that nobody on #NHL side expected this week to end well."

https://twitter.com/...065263353106432

"Angry comments from both sides, too. This is really going to test the process."
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:53 PM

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that PA proposed that players get last year's share plus 5 pct this yr regardless of schedule length/actual revenue...


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Last year's share was 1.883B...plus 5 pct would be $1.977B...would likely eat 65-67 pct of revenue in 66-68 game season.


I hope this is not true but the players want a full season worth of pay with a 5 percent increase during a shortened season...Wow.

Edited by Zubie#8, 09 November 2012 - 08:00 PM.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

Well I'm now one small step away from kissing this season goodbye
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

Any sympathy I had for the players evaporated reading that. How you have the audacity to ask the owners to bear all the burden of the lockout when you're just as obstinate is beyond me. Tri can try to talk us into believing this is all sound and fury but these guys have too much ego to concede on anything. 2012-13 is going bye bye.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:26 PM

These are some weird leaks. I'd guess they were coming from the NHL's side since they all make the NHLPA look bad, but Brooks is probably the staunchest Pro-NHLPA beatwriter out there. I think we're missing the whole story, regardless it certainly seems like the NHL is frustrated and lashing out.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:18 PM

Any sympathy I had for the players evaporated reading that. How you have the audacity to ask the owners to bear all the burden of the lockout when you're just as obstinate is beyond me. Tri can try to talk us into believing this is all sound and fury but these guys have too much ego to concede on anything. 2012-13 is going bye bye.


It's NOVEMBER 9TH. NOVEMBER. If it were February, I would agree with you. There are 3 more months during which to bargain. What's said doesn't matter, the numbers are what ultimately matter.

Furthermore, the players said all along that they would play under the old CBA, and I believe had the NHL wanted to extend that CBA for multiple years, the players would have agreed to do so. The NHL offered, before the lockout, a ridiculous first offer that said 'We have no compunction about locking you out'.
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 11:16 PM

They've had three months and neither side's moved an inch, the owners still want to take money out of the players' pockets with one hand after giving it to them with the other months ago and the players still think they should not only get 50% plus but now Fehr is being petulant in wanting the players to get paid as if there was no lockout.

Logic may say they have to get a deal done but logic doesn't account for the egos and arrogance on both sides, starting with (but not limited to) Bettman and Fehr, the two biggest enemies to labor peace in pro sports.
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