ghdi Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nhl-trades-didnt-happen/ Yes, more than a decade after almost trading Yzerman, the Red Wings found themselves contemplating another blockbuster in 2007. This time it was Pavel Datsyuk who was on the verge of a ticket out of town, thanks to an expiring contract and a lack of progress on negotiating a new deal. Rather than risk losing Datsyuk for nothing in the summer, the Wings considered moving him for another pending free agent they thought they’d have a better shot at signing: New Jersey’s Scott Gomez............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Salt in the wound. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I never heard of that one. The biggest trade that never happened I remember hearing significant rumours was some kind of deal that included Jason Arnott and Patrik Marleau being the center pieces. That was in 2002 before the eventual Arnott deal. There has always been some talk about the Devils being super close to Selanne, but him refusing to waive his NTC to go to the Devils. That was around 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I never heard of that one. The biggest trade that never happened I remember hearing significant rumours was some kind of deal that included Jason Arnott and Patrik Marleau being the center pieces. That was in 2002 before the eventual Arnott deal. There has always been some talk about the Devils being super close to Selanne, but him refusing to waive his NTC to go to the Devils. That was around 2003. That was Selanne and Damphousse for Gomez/Tverdovsky. I think Gomez/Tver were both healthy scratches the night it was supposed to go down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Datsyuk-Zajac-Madden down the middle. Would anyone have ever scored on NJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Never heard of this one either, and it seems a little fishy. This is also the kind of trade where Lou would not have let Holland off the phone until the deal was completed. Datsyuk is a Lou kind of hockey player to a tee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin226 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 No one else has heard of this one before? I guess I did because there was a mega-thread on HFBoards about near-trades that never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Take it for what it's worth, but I remember at some point during the 90s that the Devils were supposedly going after Joe Sakic. I don't remember the exact year. I also remember the Devils supposedly being interested in Brett Hull about a 1/3rd of the way into the 1992-93 season. Supposedly the Blues were down on him because he was something like a -21 through 28 GP, though he had scored 23 goals to that point. Chere asked Lou in a roundabout, non-tampering way if the Devils would consider bringing in a player like that, and Lou answered in a roundabout, non-tampering way that they would, and that money would not stop them from doing so. Obviously, nothing ever came of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 That was Selanne and Damphousse for Gomez/Tverdovsky. I think Gomez/Tver were both healthy scratches the night it was supposed to go downYep, I was actually at the game that night. Gomez was announced as a healthy scratch and the buzz in the crowd was palpable. I remember hearing after the game that Burns sent Gomez home and told him to watch the game on TV. It was portrayed as a 'wake up call' scratch for Gomez after the trade didn't go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I heard about the datsyuk non-trade about a year ago. Also remember the selanne non-trade well and remember watching on TV as doc and chico and the rest of the TV gang made special note of Gomez being held back. Kind of a let down that the trade didn't happen but at the same time we won the cup that year and Gomez played a decent part in that. Take it for what it's worth, but I remember at some point during the 90s that the Devils were supposedly going after Joe Sakic. I don't remember the exact year. I also remember the Devils supposedly being interested in Brett Hull about a 1/3rd of the way into the 1992-93 season. Supposedly the Blues were down on him because he was something like a -21 through 28 GP, though he had scored 23 goals to that point. Chere asked Lou in a roundabout, non-tampering way if the Devils would consider bringing in a player like that, and Lou answered in a roundabout, non-tampering way that they would, and that money would not stop them from doing so. Obviously, nothing ever came of it. Never heard he sakic one before. Was that around the time the Rags offer sheeted him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Never heard he sakic one before. Was that around the time the Rags offer sheeted him? It was definitely before the first Cup win. Even the salesmen around the arena were talking about it. Chere even asked Lou about a possible big move at the time, and Lou smiled and said "Could be." Who really knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It was definitely before the first Cup win. Even the salesmen around the arena were talking about it. Chere even asked Lou about a possible big move at the time, and Lou smiled and said "Could be." Who really knows?When Lou retires, I pray he writes a tell-all book. Man would that be an amazing read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It was definitely before the first Cup win. Even the salesmen around the arena were talking about it. Chere even asked Lou about a possible big move at the time, and Lou smiled and said "Could be." Who really knows? Did Chere ask lou about sakic in particular? Me thinks maybe the salesmen were saying that to sweeten their pitch for ticket sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Did Chere ask lou about sakic in particular? Me thinks maybe the salesmen were saying that to sweeten their pitch for ticket sales. It wasn't just the salesmen...I would've thought the same thing otherwise. I wish I could remember all of the particulars. I remember thinking "Holy sh!t, Joe Sakic could be coming here?!" It was when Sakic was still a Nordique and pretty young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 No one else has heard of this one before? I guess I did because there was a mega-thread on HFBoards about near-trades that never happened. I remember the Post having an article on it or mentioning it, I thought the rumor itself was pretty well known but wasn't sure which side initiated it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) You think they would still do this trade tho??? Maybe if we is throw in Gionta???? Edited February 17, 2015 by Neb00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Devils were in on Mogilny as early as 1990 when he was having issues adjusting (and panic attacks on planes I believe) Lou had Fetisov and Kasatonov here (though they didn't really get along) but the Devils were rumored to be trying to do Burke for Mogilny Also Broten in 1995 was supposed to be Nieuwendyk. That's who Lou was after. Not sure what Calgary wanted in return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Supposedly, as far as Sean Burke was concerned, his value was so high early in his career that the Red Wings had a standing offer of Jimmy Carson on the table (he wasn't far removed from a couple of 100-point seasons), and Calgary was willing to part with Doug Gilmour for him. Even after sitting out an entire season after three straight mediocre seasons that saw him lose his job to Chris Terreri (who clearly outplayed him), Burke (with Eric Weinrich) was still able to fetch Bobby Holik (considered to be a big-time prospect back then...he was only 21 when the Devils got him) and a second-rounder that eventually became Jay Pandolfo. It was actually pretty amazing Burke still had that much value...he hadn't been good at all after his '88 run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Devils were in on Mogilny as early as 1990 when he was having issues adjusting (and panic attacks on planes I believe) Lou had Fetisov and Kasatonov here (though they didn't really get along) but the Devils were rumored to be trying to do Burke for Mogilny Also Broten in 1995 was supposed to be Nieuwendyk. That's who Lou was after. Not sure what Calgary wanted in return Calgary wound up getting a young prospect named Jarome Iginla for Nieuwendyk... I'd imagine the price was a little rich for Lou's blood at that point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 There was also a Nieds for Jagr trade in 94 or 95, that never came to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I Heard there was a Gretzky for Mickey Mouse trade rumor in the early 80's that did not pan out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Speaking of transactions that almost/were rumored to happen, some of the younger posters may not have realized that the compensation that St. Louis originally offered in exchange for Brendan Shannahan back in '91 was Rod Brind'Amour and Curtis Joseph... How different would things have been had Lou not fought for Stevens? That arbitration hearing changed the course of hockey history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Apparently Lou was going to ask for either Hull, Oates or Stevens. St. Louis wasn't really offering much initially...their first offer was Dan Quinn (a power-play specialist and decent offensive player who couldn't really do much else...he was a trainwreck defensively...but he could put up some points, so he was like a lefty pitcher in baseball who keeps getting chances...he wound up playing for 8 teams, three of them twice). Lou told the Blues to go screw. The Blues kept trying to sweeten the pot from there, but Lou wasn't biting. A lot of GMs would've just taken Brind'Amour and Joseph and called it a day. If the Lou didn't have Brodeur already in the pipeline, he very well might have. He had serious cojones back then, but he knew the league was not happy with the Blues for jacking up salaries and knew the league wouldn't mind sticking it to St. Louis. When Troy Crowder left as a Group 1 FA (same as Shanny) to sign with Detroit, Lou again swung for the fences and asked for Bob Probert. Detroit offered Randy McKay and Dave Barr. McKay's and Probert's career numbers wound up being eerily similar from a production standpoint: 932 GP and 363 Pts for McKay, 935 GP and 384 Pts for Probert. (Probert had almost twice as many penalty minutes.) McKay wound up being much more productive than anyone had any right to expect: in 83 NHL games with Detroit, he had scored just 4 goals, with 13 assists. Really had a nice career with NJ...worked out well for the Devils. Edited February 17, 2015 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The Selanne one I heard about, the rest I had no idea. I have to think Nieds for Jagr is a deal you'd have to do. Ditto the Gomez for Datsyuk deal, obviously, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils102 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yep, I was actually at the game that night. Gomez was announced as a healthy scratch and the buzz in the crowd was palpable. I remember hearing after the game that Burns sent Gomez home and told him to watch the game on TV. It was portrayed as a 'wake up call' scratch for Gomez after the trade didn't go down. Was that against Columbus and the Devils lost 2-1 or something? I think I remember listening to that game. There was all kinds of rumours that Miro Satan was going to New Jersey that year as well. As for the Datsyuk trade, even if it had gone through I think the Devils would have looked pretty similar the next season unfortunately. No Gomez and no Datsyuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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