devils26 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Unless you think Kovy's going to struggle to get 30 goals and finish with above a -30 every year, or a healthy Zajac's only getting 44 points the rest of his career (after being in the 60s the previous couple years), you can't take the first half of last year as proof of Marty's decline. Not after he had such a strong second half. I think this is a very important point to remember. In fact, I would argue that we shouldn't use any of last year as evidence for anything because the season was so fluky. We got none of the bounces in the first half, and everything went our way in the second half. It's said that you're never as bad as your worst nor as good as your best (I think it's something like that), and I think last year is a perfect example of that. Edited October 21, 2011 by devils26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I think that if Marty could stay healthy, he'd be one of the top 10 goalies in the league. Might even push his way into the top 5. Unfortunately, he just hasn't been able to stay healthy these past couple years. Here's hoping his career ends with him healthy and reminding us all of what a joy it's been to watch him wear the horned and tailed NJ for the past two decades. For a guy who built his reputation on reliability, consistency and durability, it just wouldn't be right if he watched his final games from the team suite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Agreed CR...but when it comes to Marty this board has some certifiable lunatics. I wish some people gave him half the appreciation they give Kovy As far as this nonsense about Marty going downhill, his save percentage has actually been BETTER since the lockout from '05-10 than it was in his prime years. His career save percentage is .913, his season totals from '07-08 when he was supposedly going downhill were .920, .916 and .916 till last year. Last year was .903 but just about everyone on the team had career worst numbers because of the dreadful first half. Unless you think Kovy's going to struggle to get 30 goals and finish with above a -30 every year, or a healthy Zajac's only getting 44 points the rest of his career (after being in the 60s the previous couple years), you can't take the first half of last year as proof of Marty's decline. Not after he had such a strong second half. I don't have a problem with people critiquing Marty...it's more about the half- and non-truths people throw out there...as in "It's obvious that Marty isn't what he was, he's been on the decline for years now," blah blah blah. And that bad first half is what many of them latch onto, ignoring the fine seasons that came just before it, and the strong second half that followed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 if anyone is insisting that any of us are lunatics or that we are hating Marty you're out of your god damn minds. get real, its just reality. we love the guy as much as everyone else.. just dont pretend that the guy is still going to be putting up fantastic numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) if anyone is insisting that any of us are lunatics or that we are hating Marty you're out of your god damn minds. get real, its just reality. we love the guy as much as everyone else.. just dont pretend that the guy is still going to be putting up fantastic numbers He went 17-8-2 from Jan 9 on. In 19 of the games he started from that date, he allowed 2 goals or less. He pitched a shutout in one of those games, against Pittsburgh, but lost in the shootout. Eight of those victories came by one goal (three of those in OT and a fourth in the shootout), and three more by two goals. So it's not like he had a whole lot of offensive support to work with. Like I've pointed out in other posts, with the exception of a seven-game, 28-goal outburst to start the second half of the season, the Devils' offense was pretty much non-existent. They were timely in scoring key goals in the second half after that surge, but Marty had to be at his near-best to keep the Devils in games so that they had a chance to win them. If you don't think he was fantastic in the second half of last season, not sure what to tell you. Edited October 21, 2011 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnuh Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I think when Marty gets healthy we should see a 60/40 or 55/45 split with Moose ... It might be to late for the reduced playing time to save him though. I personally would have liked to have seen that started with the 09/10 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titleofusername98 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 If it is the end of his career, then we surely got the best years out of him before any other team could. i think he could retire knowing that we're in good hands with Hedberg as our goalie. the guy's a stud. But I don't think Marty is done yet. he may have been in this for twenty years but i dont think hes had his fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 If it is the end of his career, then we surely got the best years out of him before any other team could. i think he could retire knowing that we're in good hands with Hedberg as our goalie. the guy's a stud. But I don't think Marty is done yet. he may have been in this for twenty years but i dont think hes had his fun. Our team wouldn't be in Hedberg's hands; the guy is 38 and on a one year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 People do forget how old Hedberg is because he hasn't been as brittle as Marty the last couple years. But Marty better get back soon cause more 40-shot nights like last night and Hedberg's gonna pull something and wind up on the shelf too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 If it is the end of his career, then we surely got the best years out of him before any other team could. i think he could retire knowing that we're in good hands with Hedberg as our goalie. the guy's a stud. But I don't think Marty is done yet. he may have been in this for twenty years but i dont think hes had his fun. What guy are we talking about? A 38 year old career backup/fringe starter? I love the way the Moose has played for us, and I think he probably deserved more minutes than he got earlier in his career, but he's far from a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 haha Hedberg is just about as old as Marty.. no one will rest easily in the event that "Hedberg is in our hands" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn01 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 For the time being, I am ok with Moose taking a bigger load ( ). Something needs to be done though this coming offseason. We cant keep just barely getting by in the goaltending department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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