mfitz804 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Kind of a spin-off of the other thread. I tried to think of one, past or present, and couldn't do it. A captain is supposed to be a leader, but let's be honest, its also supposed to be one of your better players. Not your worst. Can anyone name a captain that was crappier ours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Kind of a spin-off of the other thread. I tried to think of one, past or present, and couldn't do it. A captain is supposed to be a leader, but let's be honest, its also supposed to be one of your better players. Not your worst. Can anyone name a captain that was crappier ours? Craig Rivet. Dave Andreychuk in his final NHL season. I think Gary Roberts was a captain somewhere when he was terrible too. Lyle Odelein might've been a captain in Columbus, I forget. Those are just off the top of my head, I think there are other candidates, especially on expansion teams (was Brad Marsh Ottawa's first captain or was it Laurie Boschman?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Craig Rivet. Dave Andreychuk in his final NHL season. I think Gary Roberts was a captain somewhere when he was terrible too. Lyle Odelein might've been a captain in Columbus, I forget. Those are just off the top of my head, I think there are other candidates, especially on expansion teams (was Brad Marsh Ottawa's first captain or was it Laurie Boschman?) Problem is that we're not an expansion team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ed jovanovski. Seriously that was only like last year, the obsession with Salvador and hyperbole that he's "the worst captain in nhl history" is getting ridiculous. He's not good but some people need to tone down the hate. He played fine sv the rags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 At least we know one stat Sal will finish the season leading... Most Hate Threads On NJDevs.com He may even break the record Marty set last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Dion Phaneuf was horrific against boston, in what will go down as one of the greatest choke jobs in Canadian hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 At least we know one stat Sal will finish the season leading... Most Hate Threads On NJDevs.com He may even break the record Marty set last year. Don't get too far ahead of yourself on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Don't get too far ahead of yourself on that one. True. He'll probably get injured. Then Gio can take over as most hated man Edited October 23, 2014 by Devil Dan 56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Troy Loney? Adrian Aucoin? Marke Messier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Ferrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Andrew Ferrence is not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Andrew Ferrence is not bad. Yes, he is. He is basically Salvador west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 My point wasn't that Salvador has declined, I dont think he was ever good enough to warrant the C. Most of the other guys mentioned were good at some time, even if their skills deteriorated by the time they were a captain. I mean seriously, did someone say Mark Messier is worse than Bryce Salvador? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yes, he is. He is basically Salvador west.I comepletely disagree. If we swapped him and Sal between these two teams it would be night and day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yes, he is. He is basically Salvador west. Hey, Tri are you still sticking to your claim that having Sal and Zids get a lot of ice time is good because it means we have a lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I mean seriously, did someone say Mark Messier is worse than Bryce Salvador? I'd bet there's PLENTY of Canuck fans who'd agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 My point wasn't that Salvador has declined, I dont think he was ever good enough to warrant the C. Most of the other guys mentioned were good at some time, even if their skills deteriorated by the time they were a captain. I mean seriously, did someone say Mark Messier is worse than Bryce Salvador? I did and what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 I did and what? And that's perhaps one of the most inaccurate statements I ever heard. You can't possibly argue that Salvador was ever more talented than Messier ever was. He's the second leading scorer of all time. I'll say again, I'm not talking about guys losing skill over time due to age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmon2010 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The only captain that's worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oat77 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 But how many future captains were ever traded for Cam Janssen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewarkDevil5 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The only captain that's worse... He's a hero! Gonna take pollution down to zero!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 But how many future captains were ever traded for Cam Janssen? Exactly. A team decided they'd rather have Cam Janssen than our captain. Something is wrong with that equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Exactly. A team decided they'd rather have Cam Janssen than our captain. Something is wrong with that equation. Yeah, because he would be the only player from his home city to play there, and that team was desperate for things to attract fans. Lou wisely saved a draft pick that way - Salvador was probably worth a 2nd rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Wasn't Chris Clark a pretty lousy captain? Or was he already mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Another thread that exhibits how lost the majority of fans are on this forum. Should there be a correlation between skill and one receiving the captaincy? Yes. Should it be the cause? No Over the past 25 years look at the winners of the Cup, I can think of 2 to 3 instances where the most skilled player was the captain of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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