Steadevils Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Skinner flopped down so bad on that Fayne penalty..It was an interference penalty, but it should have been a diving minor on Skinner as well. Also, I can say from experience, after getting hit with a hard shot all you want to do is hit something/someone. I don't blame Fayne on that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziti17 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Is this serious? Blaming the loss on that? Who took a dumb penalty that ked to the winning PP goal ? Yup. Not saying it was a good penalty by Fayne, but that's not why we lost. We were outplayed the 1st 2 periods and looked bad. We didn't have enough tonight. Edited February 13, 2013 by ziti17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Skinner flopped down so bad on that Fayne penalty..It was an interference penalty, but it should have been a diving minor on Skinner as well. Also, I can say from experience, after getting hit with a hard shot all you want to do is hit something/someone. I don't blame Fayne on that one. dude don't bring up embellishment. Was it Gionta who completely held the stick of a Hurricane and got the call against CAR? I would've been livid if i was a Canes fan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Who took a dumb penalty that ked to the winning PP goal ? Yup. Who couldn't get their stick on a puck that would have gone into an open net on said PK, allowing the Canes to come back with numbers? Who decided to play bonus goalie and then banked the puck into his own net, right afterwards? See how this game works? If he doesn't take that penalty, they don't have that short handed chance to win the game, which was missed and then turned back on them, when Volch banked into his own net. So, if anything, both teams had chances to score based off of that, one did, one didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadevils Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 dude don't bring up embellishment. Was it Gionta who completely held the stick of a Hurricane and got the call against CAR? I would've been livid if i was a Canes fan... Hahah yea that was a blatant stick hold on Gionta for sure, but all I was trying to do was protect Fayne by saying the non call on Skinner 's flop was bad. I was not trying to blame the Officiating overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziti17 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Who took a dumb penalty that ked to the winning PP goal ? Yup. Who couldn't get their stick on a puck that would have gone into an open net on said PK, allowing the Canes to come back with numbers? Who decided to play bonus goalie and then banked the puck into his own net, right afterwards? See how this game works? If he doesn't take that penalty, they don't have that short handed chance to win the game, which was missed and then turned back on them, when Volch banked into his own net. So, if anything, both teams had chances to score based off of that, one did, one didn't. agree with exactly what you are saying, can't blame Fayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Who couldn't get their stick on a puck that would have gone into an open net on said PK, allowing the Canes to come back with numbers? Who decided to play bonus goalie and then banked the puck into his own net, right afterwards? See how this game works? If he doesn't take that penalty, they don't have that short handed chance to win the game, which was missed and then turned back on them, when Volch banked into his own net. So, if anything, both teams had chances to score based off of that, one did, one didn't. Not to mention if we're going to bench a defenseman every game for taking a penalty Zidlicky would have been benched like eight times already this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Who couldn't get their stick on a puck that would have gone into an open net on said PK, allowing the Canes to come back with numbers? Who decided to play bonus goalie and then banked the puck into his own net, right afterwards? See how this game works? If he doesn't take that penalty, they don't have that short handed chance to win the game, which was missed and then turned back on them, when Volch banked into his own net. So, if anything, both teams had chances to score based off of that, one did, one didn't. Its one thing to miss an opportunity or make a bad play under pressureTo push a guy and get a careless interference penalty with 10 min left is a bonehead play. Nothing less. Plus i would have rather not have that scoring opportunity and at least get a point maybe at least Edited February 13, 2013 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Has Travis Zajac's game been put on a milk carton yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Its one thing to miss an opportunity or make a bad play. To push a guy and get a careless interference penalty with 10 min left is a bonehead play. Nothing less. So is putting it in your own net. There were a bunch of plays that needed to be made (or not made) in that sequence. None were done the right way. Pinning it on one guy is oversimplification. Would be like blaming Greene for putting the first goal into his own net. Who cares, it was going in there anyway. Some people just have to put the big boy pants on and realize they're probably not going to win 35 games this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 So is putting it in your own net. There were a bunch of plays that needed to be made (or not made) in that sequence. None were done the right way. Pinning it on one guy is oversimplification. Would be like blaming Greene for putting the first goal into his own net. Who cares, it was going in there anyway. Some people just have to put the big boy pants on and realize they're probably not going to win 35 games this season. What? Sacrilege Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I wasn't entirely disappointed with the effort tonight. The passion was not there toward the beginning, but the second half of the game was pretty good. If the Devils got lucky with a couple of bounces, they could have won this one. I wasn't so happy with the D tonight. There were a lot of sloppy plays and some unneeded penalties, it seemed. On offense, though, some of those guys were flying. Kovy was all over the place. Elias looked great as well. I thought Henrique and Clarkson didn't have their best games, but Butler is showing that he may be 1st line quality after all. Josefson, too, was looking more confident than ever on the puck. I am really hoping that he gets some more time with someone other than Barch. And though it has been a while that he has appeared on the score sheet, I was impressed with Zajac's offensive game tonight. He was more aggressive and confident than I have seen so far this season. The goals will come soon, I'm sure. But damn....those top two lines on Carolina are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I'm glad we lost. If we won after an effort like that, we would've strolled into Friday's game vs. a desperate Flyerrs team arrogant, cocky, and probably experience a more embarrassing fate than we will now after a few days of rest and practice. Something tells me someone like DeBoer agrees with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Alright, alright. Everyone has a stinker sometimes. Let's win the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Fine loss - the Devils were coming off a 7 games in 11 days stretch, which is the most you can play in 11 days in the NHL. They didn't play well, but they weren't awful either - breakdowns, giveaways, pucks rolling off sticks, etc. were all featured, but there were lots of chances off the rush. I thought Kovalchuk had his best game tonight, too. Fayne's penalty is whatever, he's one of the most disciplined defensemen in the league, it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Fayne in the lineup is better than Fayne out of the lineup. I think we were 0-3 without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashline Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 dude don't bring up embellishment. Was it Gionta who completely held the stick of a Hurricane and got the call against CAR? I would've been livid if i was a Canes fan...To be honest I didn't even think Jokinen's penalty on Kovy should have been called. He did a great job of drawing it though by keeping his legs moving. We certainly missed on a few big chances, but overall we just got outplayed. PP was horrible besides our first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Oh well. It was bound to happen eventually. Get back on the horse boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Eh they played ok. Cam Ward was really strong, not a lot of rebounds but Devils missed on a ton of chances. We would have won with a better PK tonight. I thought Kovalchuk had a strong game, he was all over the place in a good way and had a monster PK shift in the 3rd. But honestly the puck wasnt bouncing our way tonight, we could have easily had 5-6 goals. Thats the way it goes sometimes. Only noticeable problem I saw was we lost a lot of board battles, need Mr. Zubrus back. Edited February 13, 2013 by Zubie#8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I had this down as a 3-2 loss before the match even started. You could tell one was comming just by the run of games we have had. We cant win them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Man, I hate those guys. Skinner taking a slapshot at Fayne's foot was uncalled for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Kovy was really feeling it in the third, first time this year where he brought it in strong with a "its my puck and you cant touch it" attitude, came in deep circled around the zone and set up chances. patty looked fast too for an old man, he can still backcheck with the best of them. edit: at least I didnt jinx travis defensively Edited February 13, 2013 by EdgeControl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) one thing that we had problems with last night and it's something i've been saying for awhile now. Our breakouts of our zone sucks, especially against team putting a big forecheck and a fight like we are in the offensive zone. Most of our breakout attempts will go like this... the dman will get the puck and rock it around the boards (and since our plays and system is mostly working around the boards we need guys there) so there will be a guy standing still around the hashmark with a guy on his back... so that guy will have to either 1- try to chip the puck out of that rocket slapper around the boards hoping that it bounces out of the zone so that our center rush to win that fight cause a dman of the other team is also there waiting for that puck. but for it to work you have to win a few fight and race and when we can finally get it in the neutral zone we're still along the board with a guy coming at you so they dump. But everyone is so far back that they can't win the race for that dump and chase. 2- Get the puck and keep it in his skates and fight along the boards and try to get it out to another teammates so then we may be able to skate it out. But most of the time the guy getting the puck have no speed as they are in motion when they get it and they really don't do the cross ice neutral zone pass toooo often, i know why but thats what it is. the "problem" with that is that again, we're setting up ourselves for constant battles and battles and most of the puck that way were simply giving the puck to the other team while we had possession and we have to re-win the puck and start over and sometimes it takes like 4 breakout attempts like that to actually get it out with guy having space to make a play. like i said our guys are warriors and it seems to work but it's still a problem when we're getting pinned in our zone cause we simply keep on getting rid of our possession. Edited February 13, 2013 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 my fault guys, i didn't get to watch the game and didn't have my josefson jersey on. i will take care of business on friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 one thing that we had problems with last night and it's something i've been saying for awhile now. Our breakouts of our zone sucks, especially against team putting a big forecheck and a fight like we are in the offensive zone. Most of our breakout attempts will go like this... the dman will get the puck and rock it around the boards (and since our plays and system is mostly working around the boards we need guys there) so there will be a guy standing still around the hashmark with a guy on his back... so that guy will have to either 1- try to chip the puck out of that rocket slapper around the boards hoping that it bounces out of the zone so that our center rush to win that fight cause a dman of the other team is also there waiting for that puck. but for it to work you have to win a few fight and race and when we can finally get it in the neutral zone we're still along the board with a guy coming at you so they dump. But everyone is so far back that they can't win the race for that dump and chase. 2- Get the puck and keep it in his skates and fight along the boards and try to get it out to another teammates so then we may be able to skate it out. But most of the time the guy getting the puck have no speed as they are in motion when they get it and they really don't do the cross ice neutral zone pass toooo often, i know why but thats what it is. the "problem" with that is that again, we're setting up ourselves for constant battles and battles and most of the puck that way were simply giving the puck to the other team while we had possession and we have to re-win the puck and start over and sometimes it takes like 4 breakout attempts like that to actually get it out with guy having space to make a play. like i said our guys are warriors and it seems to work but it's still a problem when we're getting pinned in our zone cause we simply keep on getting rid of our possession. I think you sometimes just have to give credit to the other guys! but in that first period the problems werent system related just BAD bad plays, as the game went on it improved but we still lost some battles and the wingers werent on the boards, that was due to carolina wanting it! I like Deboers breakouts, when you consider only greene and zid can skate a puck out of their own end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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