roomtemp Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I mean if we lost 3-2 and it was a relatively clean game other then our homerism qualms fine. But to lose on a boarding call that should have never happened if the refs did their jobs and protected out player feels hallow. Plus the linesman interference didn't help matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevsftw Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Totally agree.. It was a penalty for sure, but no doubt the whole incident was a direct result of the non-call a few second before on the IDENTICAL hit by Stoll on Gionta.. We definitively got the short end of the stick from the refs this whole playoffs.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Dan O'Rourke is a piece of shiit . The same boarding call that Bernier was nailed for was glossed over and never called when that scumbag Dustin Brown did the same to the Coyotes player in their series. The officiating in the NHL is an absolute joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion15 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Dan O'Rourke should be tarred and feathered. Because of his BS, Bernier is going to be the goat and blamed for losing us the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Just call a 2min minor for boarding if you're not calling the Gionta hit, ITS THE STANLEY CUP FINALS, and the player turned into the boards, just call a minor. 1st, 2nd, 3rd goal off the botched call. 4th goal linesman interference 5th goal empty net 6th goal legit Very frustrating but being down 3-0 in the series is the reason why we lost the series. Edited June 12, 2012 by Zubie#8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 It was a horrendous call. But our pk was garbage and we needed if to be sharp to have any shot at the cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyvegas Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Dont forget the shot to Valchenkov right after that with no call. And the call to Sykora after the doubl minor to Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobaMB30 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Theres a new chant on the streets of LA.. "our fans are better" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 It was a 5 on 4 major... sucks, yes. Say it killed our momentum, sure... But no reason to let in 3 goals. That's on us. The Kings beat us, not the refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 This is the worst kind of belly-aching. If the situation is reversed, you'd all be crying dirty player, cheap shot, not to mention the conspiracy theories if no 5 minute major was called. Them's the breaks sometimes. Don't give up three f'n goals. Or score a goal when we have a one minute 5 on 3 pp in game three, and maybe we're up 3-2 in the series going into last night. Devils lost to the better team. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 It's easy to say get over it. Was our PK on the 5 minute major horrible...absolutely. However, referees can completely affect the outcome of the game and there is no doubt they did so in Game 6. The missed call on the Stoll hit from behind on Gionta directly led to the Bernier 5 minute boarding major. The call on Bernier was correct and he deserved what he got. However, it wouldn't have happened if the refs did their job and made the correct call 10 seconds before. And don't get me started on the linesman skating right into Volchenkov's path on the 4th goal. They are supposed to stay along the boards in those situations so as to not interfere with the play, and he did the opposite. These are supposed to be the best refs the NHL has, and they were as terrible as our PK last night. The Kings took advantage and deserved to win this game and the series. But if you think the refs didn't play a huge part in last night's outcome, then you are fooling yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobaMB30 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 ya but its not the call its the missed calls around it.. seconds earlier Gionta gets hit from behind, the difference is he didnt even look, where the LA guy peeked then turned... the difference is ones hurt the other ne isnt.. so to make things clear.. Being hurt is the penalty!! .. then the puck goes down into NJ zone and right as NJ touches it in the corner the LA player turns and punches someone in the head. .. Oh but I guess thats allowed. its not the call that really pissed me off its the plays around it.. should have been evened up for at least the first two minutes of that 5min pp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 This is the worst kind of belly-aching. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyvegas Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I dont think anyone here thinks the penalties are what beat us. We're just pissed off at the refs. That's allowed. Look, they passed better, shot better (we only had one goal off a continuous passing pay, Henrique), stopped the play better. Our guys had a hard time even receiving a pass from one another. That's how quick the Kings were. Hell, we even got 2 games out of this series. Cant wait till next year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) It's easy to say get over it. Was our PK on the 5 minute major horrible...absolutely. However, referees can completely affect the outcome of the game and there is no doubt they did so in Game 6. The missed call on the Stoll hit from behind on Gionta directly led to the Bernier 5 minute boarding major. The call on Bernier was correct and he deserved what he got. However, it wouldn't have happened if the refs did their job and made the correct call 10 seconds before. And don't get me started on the linesman skating right into Volchenkov's path on the 4th goal. They are supposed to stay along the boards in those situations so as to not interfere with the play, and he did the opposite. These are supposed to be the best refs the NHL has, and they were as terrible as our PK last night. The Kings took advantage and deserved to win this game and the series. But if you think the refs didn't play a huge part in last night's outcome, then you are fooling yourself. Only an Ed Hochuli type call in that Broncos/Chargers game effects the outcome in a meaningful way. The luck of the calls breaks both ways over the course of a best of seven series. It's an unfortunate situation for Bernier, and it wasn't intentional (those type of hits rarely are), but it was certainly within the range of the ref's reasonable discretion to call the major. Some refs will give you the benefit of the doubt, but you can't count on that. Virtually every high-stick is unintentional and rarely the result of reckless play. But sometimes you draw blood and sometimes you don't. And sometimes the ref misses the call. If you mean that refs effect the outcome in a butterfly effect kind of way, you're merely stating a truism. That Volchenkov pick, when you control the play like the Kings did, you'll tend to get those kind of breaks. If the Devils aren't in that position, stuff like that doesn't happen. The better team won last night, and won the series. The refs had nothing to do with it. Edited June 12, 2012 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) The refs had nothing to do with it. You're missing the point of what I'm saying. If your going to call Bernier for a boarding penalty (which I've already said was the right call to make), then you have to call Stoll for boarding/check from behind on Gionta a few second before. Just because Scuderi got smashed into the glass and Gionta got run into a 1/2 wall doesn't make a difference. The hit on Gionta was a clear penalty directly in front of the ref, and he doesn't make the call. His non-call is what potentially effected the outcome of the game as the Bernier hit wouldn't have occurred if he made that call. That PP decided the game and, therefore, the refs had an affect on the outcome. It's not the call that was made that is the problem. It's the inconsistency and the non-call a few seconds before that changed the game. Edited June 12, 2012 by Chuck the Duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobaMB30 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 you guys are talking about LA being quicker/faster/stronger.. sure all after the fact.. after the 5 min penalty.. after the Devils are beyond deflated and know its over.. after that point, the game has already changed and yes one team is defeated and the other one is playing on adrenaline knowing they’re the cup champs I have no problem losing to a better tem.. but not like this !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) You're missing the point of what I'm saying. If your going to call Bernier for a boarding penalty (which I've already said was the right call to make), then you have to call Stoll for boarding/check from behind on Gionta a few second before. Just because Scuderi got smashed into the glass and Gionta got run into a 1/2 wall doesn't make a difference. The hit on Gionta was a clear penalty directly in front of the ref, and he doesn't make the call. His non-call is what potentially effected the outcome of the game as the Bernier hit wouldn't have occurred if he made that call. That PP decided the game and, therefore, the refs had an affect on the outcome. It's not the call that was made that is the problem. It's the inconsistency and the non-call a few seconds before that changed the game. Missed calls are part of the game. At other times, the refs missed calls that favored the Kings. Yes, you're right that without the Gionta non-call the Bernier hit doesn't happen. That's a truism. Yet, the fact remains, the Bernier hit happened, and he could have been more careful or held up on what was an unnecessary hit in the first place. A blown off-sides call or missed hand pass three minutes earlier changes things down the road. Edited June 12, 2012 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Im not saying the refs were the reason we lost last night (cause we didn't play well at all, and need to be able to kill off penalties). But the refs last night did not call the game both ways. If the first sentence is true, the second sentence is, at best, an observation of little value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Plain and sinmple Bernier deserved a major for the hit, the point is if they make the call when G got hit, Berniers hit never happens... Refs Suck, almost as much as out PK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njd3b1ink Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) If the first sentence is true, the second sentence is, at best, an observation of little value. So if the devils played amazing and still lost it wud have more value? No matter how u look at the game, and no matter how well or bad the devils played*, it doesnt take away from the fact that the officiating was horribly lopsided. Edited June 12, 2012 by njd3b1ink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Should have been a double minor. Worst case is the Kings score two goals. Then we still have a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 This is the worst kind of belly-aching. If the situation is reversed, you'd all be crying dirty player, cheap shot, not to mention the conspiracy theories if no 5 minute major was called. Them's the breaks sometimes. Don't give up three f'n goals. Or score a goal when we have a one minute 5 on 3 pp in game three, and maybe we're up 3-2 in the series going into last night. Devils lost to the better team. Get over it. I'm over it, and believe, hard as it is to say, that we deserved to lose. That said, the refs are there for safety, and they failed at that. The game got chippy because the Kings could get away with murder, and the Devils began to retaliate. The refs tried to fix it with misconducts, but again called against the Devils. None of this affecte the outcome, and thankfully the Devils had enough class not to escalate it too much, but if the Flyers are playing, we could have seen a catastrophic injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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