Toby Flenderson: HR Rep Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Marleau had a great season, but he is a Left Wing as Yahoo lists him. I am just not sure Lou takes the risk, but a deal for Marleau is going to have a steep price. How steep could it be? He's on the last year of his deal which makes him a rental. The whole league knows the Sharks want to shed salary, whatever the reason may be. I personally think they want Heatley. I also think it's a mistake for SJ to bring back the same team that choked last year and they have to make some sort of change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 hmm, i don't know about this auto Єklund (2.3% accurate) (2.3% accurate) (2.3% accurate), it's ruining my sarcastic comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlemagne Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 How steep could it be? He's on the last year of his deal which makes him a rental. The whole league knows the Sharks want to shed salary, whatever the reason may be. I personally think they want Heatley. I also think it's a mistake for SJ to bring back the same team that choked last year and they have to make some sort of change. some would also say it's a mistake to blow up a team that won the presidents trophy. anaheim was the dumbest eight-seed in nhl history. they were the worst match-up the sharks could have gotten. they took detroit to 7 games. they had two of the best defensemen in the nhl and a goalie playing like superman. san jose needs tweaks to the roster, not a blow-up. there's not much they can get in return that makes losing marleau's talent okay. patty's one of the few consistent playoff performers on the team (unlike thornton), and he's as solid defensively as he is offensively. he's actually underpaid, in my opinion. he's not the salary that needs to be shed. there are others making more than they deserve (cheech, murray, maybe clowe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson: HR Rep Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 some would also say it's a mistake to blow up a team that won the presidents trophy. anaheim was the dumbest eight-seed in nhl history. they were the worst match-up the sharks could have gotten. they took detroit to 7 games. they had two of the best defensemen in the nhl and a goalie playing like superman. san jose needs tweaks to the roster, not a blow-up. there's not much they can get in return that makes losing marleau's talent okay. patty's one of the few consistent playoff performers on the team (unlike thornton), and he's as solid defensively as he is offensively. he's actually underpaid, in my opinion. he's not the salary that needs to be shed. there are others making more than they deserve (cheech, murray, maybe clowe). I don't believe in bringing back the same team that has continually shown that can't get it done in the playoffs. They have to make a change not a tweak. If they traded Marleau and got Heatley in a seperate trade then I think they got the better player. You can make all the excuses you want. They have not been a great playoff team the last few years and last year they won the Presidents Trophy and they still choked in the 1st round. I don't care who they played. It's time for a change in SJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Devil Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 some would also say it's a mistake to blow up a team that won the presidents trophy. anaheim was the dumbest eight-seed in nhl history. they were the worst match-up the sharks could have gotten. they took detroit to 7 games. they had two of the best defensemen in the nhl and a goalie playing like superman. san jose needs tweaks to the roster, not a blow-up. there's not much they can get in return that makes losing marleau's talent okay. patty's one of the few consistent playoff performers on the team (unlike thornton), and he's as solid defensively as he is offensively. he's actually underpaid, in my opinion. he's not the salary that needs to be shed. there are others making more than they deserve (cheech, murray, maybe clowe). Agree for the most part with this. Don't agree that Marleau is underpaid, but he's a very good player who fills a lot of roles for the team. Also don't agree with the players/salaries you think should be moved, especially Clowe. The player/salary that absolutely needs to move, IMESHO, is Michalek. In my mind, he is a definite weak link for that team in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I think Marleau would be a great add to the Devils, he won't have a chance in hell to get a captaincy or even and A so he would have no pressure and go out and do his thing. Position is obviously a problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par9 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Are the Rags gonna want him now! This is Sather: Lets sign Gabby and Prosbal and now lets trade for Heatley and Marleau we would be in cap trouble but who cares and uh lets try to get Kaberle and Kessel and while at it lets trade for Malkin! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlemagne Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I don't believe in bringing back the same team that has continually shown that can't get it done in the playoffs. They have to make a change not a tweak. If they traded Marleau and got Heatley in a seperate trade then I think they got the better player. You can make all the excuses you want. They have not been a great playoff team the last few years and last year they won the Presidents Trophy and they still choked in the 1st round. I don't care who they played. It's time for a change in SJ. i do care who they played. it was an awful matchup. aside from that, there were weak links all over the place: nabby, the ineffective pp, etc. but who scored the gwg's in the two games the sharks won against anaheim? patrick marleau. if you dump patty and acquire heatley, you have a better goal-scorer... that's it. would it help the pp? probably. but patty is invaluable on the pk, and is defensively responsible. who's going to be defensively responsible on a heatley-thornton-setoguchi/cheechoo line? Agree for the most part with this. Don't agree that Marleau is underpaid, but he's a very good player who fills a lot of roles for the team. Also don't agree with the players/salaries you think should be moved, especially Clowe. The player/salary that absolutely needs to move, IMESHO, is Michalek. In my mind, he is a definite weak link for that team in the playoffs. yeah i left out michalek. michalek/cheechoo and murray/ehrhoff are the likely trade-bait. clowe isn't trade-bait, i don't think, but he's a tad overpaid... i haven't been impressed with him in a while, but i'll gladly retract the sentiment if he proves himself this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs4LIFE Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If I were the Sharks I'd trade Thornton for some roster players in return, a couple of young players who have a bright future ahead of them and a veteran presence. Then I'd make Marleau the top line center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson: HR Rep Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 i do care who they played. it was an awful matchup. aside from that, there were weak links all over the place: nabby, the ineffective pp, etc. but who scored the gwg's in the two games the sharks won against anaheim? patrick marleau. if you dump patty and acquire heatley, you have a better goal-scorer... that's it. would it help the pp? probably. but patty is invaluable on the pk, and is defensively responsible. who's going to be defensively responsible on a heatley-thornton-setoguchi/cheechoo line? What was the excuse the year before when they lost to the Stars in the 2nd round? Bad matchup. This team has underachieved for a while now and maybe this particular group just can't get it done in the playoffs. You have to look at the core guys. Thornton and Nabakov may be more responsible for the failures but those 2 aren't going anywhere. Marleau is the next in line and he is the most tradable. I like Patrick Marleau but lets calm down a little bit, you are making him sound like the MVP of the league. The truth is is he isn't even the best center on his team. To replace Marleau with Heatley would be a nice upgrade. You can sign someone else to replace Marleau's pk ability. Hell, you could sign Blair Betts tomorrow and the pk unit would be upgraded as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Devil Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 yeah i left out michalek. michalek/cheechoo and murray/ehrhoff are the likely trade-bait. clowe isn't trade-bait, i don't think, but he's a tad overpaid... i haven't been impressed with him in a while, but i'll gladly retract the sentiment if he proves himself this year. What? He didn't prove enough this past season? Clowe was VERY good last season. It seemed as if he was everywhere doing all the things that help the team win. I won't say there weren't games where he left you wanting more, but I'm willing to chalk that up to playing an 82 game season. If Ryane Clowe were to don a Devils sweater, I'd be ecstatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlemagne Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 What was the excuse the year before when they lost to the Stars in the 2nd round? Bad matchup. This team has underachieved for a while now and maybe this particular group just can't get it done in the playoffs. You have to look at the core guys. Thornton and Nabakov may be more responsible for the failures but those 2 aren't going anywhere. Marleau is the next in line and he is the most tradable. I like Patrick Marleau but lets calm down a little bit, you are making him sound like the MVP of the league. The truth is is he isn't even the best center on his team. To replace Marleau with Heatley would be a nice upgrade. You can sign someone else to replace Marleau's pk ability. Hell, you could sign Blair Betts tomorrow and the pk unit would be upgraded as well. no, i wouldn't consider the stars nearly as bad a matchup as the ducks were last year. if you don't think they were absurdly good for an 8th seed, you're dreaming. and yeah, the sharks still should have beaten them. marleau is no more tradeable than joe or nabby. they, along with boyle, all have ntc's. nabby has said he would waive his. i doubt patty would. guess who the nhl players voted most underrated player in the league? oh right... patrick marleau. i'm not deifying the guy, but i get sick of him being the subject of trade rumors. he's one of the few on the team who ISN'T the problem. What? He didn't prove enough this past season? Clowe was VERY good last season. It seemed as if he was everywhere doing all the things that help the team win. I won't say there weren't games where he left you wanting more, but I'm willing to chalk that up to playing an 82 game season. If Ryane Clowe were to don a Devils sweater, I'd be ecstatic. um... no, clowe was very good the season before, especially in the playoffs. this season, he played timidly. we all want to see the fiery clowe from 07-08 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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