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[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Age 19 :

Zach Parise (WCHA) - 37 games, 23 goals, 32 assists, 55 points
Adam Henrique (OHL) - 77 games, 62 goals, 48 assists, 110 points

Zach Parise (WJC) - 6 games, 5 goals, 6 assists, 11 points, MVP
Adam Henrique (WJC) - 6 games, 1 goal, 0 assists, 1 points, Extra Forward

Age 20 :

Zach Parise (AHL) - 73 games, 18 goals, 40 assists, 58 points
Adam Henrique (AHL) - 73 games, 25 goals, 25 asists, 50 points

Age 21 :
Zach Parise (NHL) - 81 games, 14 goals, 18 assists, 32 points, 133 shots, 10:40 ES, 2:25 PP, 0:01 SH
Adam Henrique (NHL) - 48 games, 14 goals, 23 assists, 37 points, 97 shots, 14:36 ES, 1:59 PP, 1:41 SH

These two are more comparable as prospects then one might think. Parise is a little faster while Henrique has a better shot.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Triumph once referenced Tedenby as Parise insurance. I believe Henrique will be the one filling that role if Parise leaves.

[sundstrom]

Triumph once referenced Tedenby as Parise insurance. I believe Henrique will be the one filling that role if Parise leaves.

actually, i think it was me who said tedenby was parise insurance but i 100% agree with you that henrique has made me much less worried if parise should go. they are similar players although i think parise has the higher "motor" if that makes sense.

[Amberite]

It's a good comparison. I've been keeping track of Henrique since the minors and he has all the tools necessary. Although, I think Henrique has a little more raw skill than Parise, while Parise is much better along the boards. Maybe if Henrique bulks up a bit, he'll develop in that area as well. Either way, it's a nice thing to have, especially if Parise stays.

[justdo3043]

it is interesting...hoping we get to keep both....henrique has had the benefit at least at the nhl and ohl lvl and playing with great players but his stats lend credence to thinking he might be the better offensive player down the rd then parise was/is

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

actually, i think it was me who said tedenby was parise insurance but i 100% agree with you that henrique has made me much less worried if parise should go. they are similar players although i think parise has the higher "motor" if that makes sense.

I believe the two of you may have said it. I am not worried in the least bit as well. The difference between Parise and Henrique this season and Henrique and Zajac next season is much less then most would think. The only problem is predicting Elias's decline.

[njdevil26]

I had been saying that it seems like Henrique is learning to play in the NHL from Parise. They are close in size, speed, stick handling... and it seems as Henrique is learning to play a high intensity style that is hard to play against for other teams. They are very similar players. Very interesting how Henrique flew under the radar and no other team really thought highly enough to draft him.

I would hope Henrique is Elias' replacement and Parise won't need a replacement.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Very interesting how Henrique flew under the radar and no other team really thought highly enough to draft him.

He was buried behind Bailey and Renaud. He actually put up 22 goals from the 3rd line his draft year.

Edited by Jas0nMacIsaac, 17 February 2012 - 11:26 AM.

[Daniel]

What was Parise's ice time in his first year as opposed to Henrique's? My guess is that Parise's is significantly less. Also, Henrique's numbers are bigger based on extensive powerplay ice time and playing on the same line as Kovy and Parise.

I think Henrique is a good player and will be a very good player in the next year or so. He just won't be nearly as good as Parise I can't imagine Henrique ever putting up 48 goals in a season and I don't believe he'll turn out to be a consistent 35+ goal scorer, especially when he might not consistently be on the same line as more dynamic players such as Kovy.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

What was Parise's ice time in his first year as opposed to Henrique's? My guess is that Parise's is significantly less. Also, Henrique's numbers are bigger based on extensive powerplay ice time and playing on the same line as Kovy and Parise.

I think Henrique is a good player and will be a very good player in the next year or so. He just won't be nearly as good as Parise I can't imagine Henrique ever putting up 48 goals in a season and I don't believe he'll turn out to be a consistent 35+ goal scorer, especially when he might not consistently be on the same line as more dynamic players such as Kovy.

Parise got half a minute more PP icetime per game over Henrique while 4 minutes less even strength. While people can say Henrique is getting these minutes, he has earned them over other key forwards. DeBoer could have easily gave Zubrus the bigger minutes.

Edited by Jas0nMacIsaac, 17 February 2012 - 11:33 AM.

[Quinn01]

Henrique is Parise's apprentice. I dont think there is any other player in the NHL that Henrique can benefit from playing with then Parise. Its also a good time now with Parise being the captain. he himself has turned the heat on this season. Just look at his forechecking.

[UnderDogX]

The only problem is predicting Elias's decline.

This is your only problem Elias will forever be awesome

Elias will never decline he will just eventually play less effective as to not let the rest of the NHL feel bad.

[sundstrom]

henrique's PP time is almost strictly the 2nd unit which hasn't scored very much. he has an inordinate amount of SH points which will be tough to repeat. I do think he's a very good player and if the top line next year is henrique-zajac-kovalchuk, i think they'd be successful.

[Beetlebum]

Parise got big minutes in the first half of his firs year before bottoming out to 4th line duty. In my opinion Henrique has been the superior rookie, but so was Zajac in his first season and yet suffered from a sophomore slump which Parise did not.

[Triumph]

a better analogue for Henrique might be Mike Richards - I could see Henrique developing into 80% of Richards. I don't think that Henrique has the board ability or net presence of a Zach Parise, but he does have Parise's ability to steal the puck in open space.

[Beetlebum]

Elias reminds me a lot of Del Piero/Pirlo hybrid in terms of style. Pirlo has lost his pace but still remains a brilliant play maker because of his vision and savvy and the same goes for Del Piero who is not the fastest guy but still possess excellent goal scoring ability.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Parise got big minutes in the first half of his firs year before bottoming out to 4th line duty. In my opinion Henrique has been the superior rookie, but so was Zajac in his first season and yet suffered from a sophomore slump which Parise did not.

Zajac has no explosiveness to his game, something Parise and Henrique certainly have with Parise being the better of the two.

Triumph, was Parise's boardwork better then Henrique's as a 21 year old? I remember Parise being overwhelmed for a good portion of his rookie year to to the oppositions strength. Henrique will never have the motor or quickness that Parise has but I certainly believe he has 1st line potential.

I won't get into sabremetrics and their situations too much because it really is hard to predict as a rookie.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

Parise got big minutes in the first half of his firs year before bottoming out to 4th line duty. In my opinion Henrique has been the superior rookie, but so was Zajac in his first season and yet suffered from a sophomore slump which Parise did not.

Parise really had nowhere to go but up from his rookie year. His first three quarters of that season were tough...he really didn't find himself until the last 20 games or so that year. He really looked overwhelmed to the point where I wondered whether or not he should be back in the 'A'.

[Onddeck]

very interesting comparison. basically shows us that we cant underestimate Henrique anymore. dude is a beast

[Beetlebum]

Parise really had nowhere to go but up from his rookie year. His first three quarters of that season were tough...he really didn't find himself until the last 20 games or so that year. He really looked overwhelmed to the point where I wondered whether or not he should be back in the 'A'.

He scored that massive goal in Carolina game 2 unfortunately Lukowich fvcked up in front of the net.