jonnyd91 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Eat a dick Canada. You'll get what you're long overdue for tomorrow. Because this needs to be said more then once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) I agree - like when Wickenheiser was completely out of gas, felt some pressure from behind, and then flopped like she had been shot on that breakaway? I'm being a bit of a sore loser here but the officiating in overtime was horrendous. Absolutely embarrassing. I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing it like this. Edited February 20, 2014 by Mike Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Dose Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Coming at this from a Canadian perspective... That call was lame at a first glance. But the US were slashing at the goalie several times throughout the game and once, after their captain did it, she was spoken to by the referee. If you don't want to get penalized, don't slash at the goalie for no reason. Therein lies one of the difficult areas of officiating. Some people take a philosophy of, "You must call it the exact same way all game. If it's holding in the first, then it's holding in the final two minutes." Others say, "You can't call all of those, there would be too many penalties and it would ruin the game. If players start to infringe and violate the rules too frequently, then you call a penalty to make them scale back." I see this across different sports and even within a sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Therein lies one of the difficult areas of officiating. Some people take a philosophy of, "You must call it the exact same way all game. If it's holding in the first, then it's holding in the final two minutes." Others say, "You can't call all of those, there would be too many penalties and it would ruin the game. If players start to infringe and violate the rules too frequently, then you call a penalty to make them scale back." I see this across different sports and even within a sport. I like it when the officials are consistent. But I'm not against them calling things differently in the first period than in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing it like this. God damn that .gif pisses me off. Edit: I'd like to see the reverse angle though. If she grabs on with her left hand..then obviously it's a legit trip. Not a crosscheck. Edited February 20, 2014 by Devilsfan118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing it like this. I am looking at this from a totally unbiased opinion. The cross check call was complete bullsh!t. Just as bad a call that you can't make, and one I can't imagine any level 1 (it's probably a real thing) ref makes there. It is a trip or nothing. I don't think Wickenheiser dove though. Is that a tripping call? Possibly. I think any NHL ref calls something there unless they put the whistles away...and after that ATROCIOUS slashing call...that was clearly not the case. Edited February 20, 2014 by devilsrule33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hit the post Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 lost that game the way many Devils games are lost....giving up late goals.....Still proud of our womans team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It's the way she throws her arms up that really annoys me though. That's why, imo, it's a dive. Or at least, she embellished quite a bit. Can't stand when players do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If anything, it looks like her skate possibly touched Wickenheiser's. That being said, it still shouldn't have been a penalty. I'm trying really hard to not be biased here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 God damn that .gif pisses me off. Edit: I'd like to see the reverse angle though. If she grabs on with her left hand..then obviously it's a legit trip. Not a crosscheck. I think it's safe to say she doesn't though because she appears to be gripping her stick with her left hand throughout. It looks to me like the only contact was their right skates touching, which caused Knight to fall since she was leaning on that skate at the time, but Wickenheiser was on her left skate so she had no problem moving her skate up to continue her normal stride, but it seems to me that once she felt contact she went down to the ice hoping to draw a penalty shot. The fact that Knight was quickly catching up to her and was going to eliminate the breakaway makes the dive seem more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rich Chere @Ledger_NJDevils: Devils' 4 Olympians are all back in N.J. It's possible one or more could practice with the team before Monday. http://nj.com/devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 but just to be clear... a team blow a 2-0 lead with 3 min left in a game but they lost because of the refs making a "questionable call" later in OT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 but just to be clear... a team blow a 2-0 lead with 3 min left in a game but they lost because of the refs making a "questionable call" later in OT... One doesn't have to do with the other.... There is no...you blow a 2-goal lead in the final 3 minutes, so you don't deserve to win no matter what happens in OT. The US still had a PP in OT, which got negated within seconds for a play that happens in the NHL after every goalie save. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 but just to be clear... a team blow a 2-0 lead with 3 min left in a game but they lost because of the refs making a "questionable call" later in OT... I'm sure not one Canadian would bitch if the shoe was on the other foot and the roles were reversed here. Everyone up there would've been cool with it. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Let's see what happens tomorrow in the game that really matters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 but just to be clear... a team blow a 2-0 lead with 3 min left in a game but they lost because of the refs making a "questionable call" later in OT... Well first Canada goal was indefensible. The Canadian did the right thing by throwing it on net, and it deflected off the American defender. Go easy on me. I don't remember the players' names. Can't fault the Americans there. That was just bad luck. Then we hit the post on the empty net attempt. Then our goalie tried to dish the puck off to her teammate only to have to much steam on it, and it goes right to Poulin. In hindsight, she probably should have just covered the puck. While we did blow the lead, I'm gonna take the high road and give Canada credit for coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 One doesn't have to do with the other.... There is no...you blow a 2-goal lead in the final 3 minutes, so you don't deserve to win no matter what happens in OT. The US still had a PP in OT, which got negated within seconds for a play that happens in the NHL after every goalie save. Yea this angers me. On HF, this is the first Canadian response after an American brings the officiating into question. I'm sure not one Canadian would bitch if the shoe was on the other foot and the roles were reversed here. Everyone up there would've been cool with it. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Let's see what happens tomorrow in the game that really matters. I know they would have been crying foul had that empty net goal went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm sure not one Canadian would bitch if the shoe was on the other foot and the roles were reversed here. Everyone up there would've been cool with it. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Let's see what happens tomorrow in the game that really matters.I'd actually argue this game meant more. It was the gold medal match and these women don't get to go back to the NHL making seven figures a year. They have to basically live with this until Korea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Yea this angers me. On HF, this is the first Canadian response after an American brings the officiating into question. I know they would have been crying foul had that empty net goal went in. And if we beat them tomorrow, the excuses will be flying, you watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) And if we beat them tomorrow, the excuses will be flying, you watch... not from me anyway. you can put money on that tend to call out people blaming refs even if we're cheering for the same team. i just hate it. Edited February 20, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 2-0 with 3 minutes left to go? Lose 3-2 in OT? Is this woman's hockey or a devils game? Same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevsftw Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It amazes me that you guys are not only watching womens hockey, but discussing it online as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It amazes me that you guys are not only watching womens hockey, but discussing it online as well. Why is that? Shed some light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Total disgrace to blow the lead like that. Looked like deja vu with the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Total disgrace to blow the lead like that. Looked like deja vu with the Devils. yup, no sugar coating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Total disgrace to blow the lead like that. Looked like deja vu with the Devils. What blown two-goal lead and loss in OT have the Devils had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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