LOTCB Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) I love the Patriots apologists in this thread...I cannot imagine if those same apologists who think no matter what Billa-cheat does, he walks on water, if the New York Ranger$ were ever accused of this, what would their reaction be? This surely is a dark day for most of the E$PN crew, as they adore the Pat$ Edited September 12, 2007 by LOTCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I love the Patriots apologists in this thread...I cannot imagine if those same apologists who think no matter what Billa-cheat does, he walks on water, if the New York Ranger$ were ever accused of this, what would their reaction be?This surely is a dark day for most of the E$PN crew, as they adore the Pat$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) Found this on the Bills site I post on: Belicheck had a press conference, listen to this, BB refused to talk about the scandal about cheating etc and here was his response: Bill Belichek: "Does anyone want to talk about the upcoming game?" Reporter: "Is it going to be harder to score on San Diego without knowing their defensive signals?" Bill's response: Blank stare!!!! Priceless!!!! Edited September 12, 2007 by LOTCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltieri Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) I think Beli-chick should be suspended and draft picks taken. Whatever it is I hope it is fierce... Edited September 12, 2007 by South Jersey Devs Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Found this on the Bills site I post on:Belicheck had a press conference, listen to this, BB refused to talk about the scandal about cheating etc and here was his response: Bill Belichek: "Does anyone want to talk about the upcoming game?" Reporter: "Is it going to be harder to score on San Diego without knowing their defensive signals?" Bill's response: Blank stare!!!! Priceless!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Bill Belichek: "Does anyone want to talk about the upcoming game?"Reporter: "Is it going to be harder to score on San Diego without knowing their defensive signals?" Bill's response: Blank stare!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hey, I'm the first to admit that, given the results of the investigation, the Patriots cheated. My whole point in the beginning of this thread was that everybody immediately assumed the Pats were stealing signals because of a rumor. So yes, I was skeptical until further evidence surfaced. 'n now, the Patriots deserve to be punished for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hey, I'm the first to admit that, given the results of the investigation, the Patriots cheated.My whole point in the beginning of this thread was that everybody immediately assumed the Pats were stealing signals because of a rumor. So yes, I was skeptical until further evidence surfaced. 'n now, the Patriots deserve to be punished for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Remember back in 2004-2005, The Steelers won 34-20 vs the Pats during October(in Pittsburgh) Then, in the AFC Championship, the Defense was weak vs the Pats Offense(When they allowed like..5yards rushing, and intercepted Brady 2times ect , during the Regular season).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek21 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I love the Patriots apologists in this thread...I cannot imagine if those same apologists who think no matter what Billa-cheat does, he walks on water, if the New York Ranger$ were ever accused of this, what would their reaction be?This surely is a dark day for most of the E$PN crew, as they adore the Pat$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) See, this is what gets me - how people immediately assume that sign stealing is the only reason the Pats have won big games. TZ, there's no way that the Patriots simply outplayed the Steelers in that game, just like the Steelers outplayed them earlier in the season? Edited September 13, 2007 by TravisZajac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 BTW - how do you actually stop this from happening? Okay, the Patriots had guys with video cameras that were pointed at the opposition sidelines. That you can deal with. But you can put a spy camera in a helmet and have someone nonchalantly point it at the opposition coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 BTW - how do you actually stop this from happening? Okay, the Patriots had guys with video cameras that were pointed at the opposition sidelines. That you can deal with. But you can put a spy camera in a helmet and have someone nonchalantly point it at the opposition coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Random thought: Bill was the DC of the Giant$ in SB 25...hmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Oh well..I'm sure for what'll happen to the Pats, I don't think so any teams will try, or maybe of course, will try.I seriously hope not...But good point Don.I hope mister Goodell, makes sure there'll be no more cheating of sying the opposite Coach signals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Found this on the Bills site I post on:Belicheck had a press conference, listen to this, BB refused to talk about the scandal about cheating etc and here was his response: Bill Belichek: "Does anyone want to talk about the upcoming game?" Reporter: "Is it going to be harder to score on San Diego without knowing their defensive signals?" Bill's response: Blank stare!!!! Priceless!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I have one thing to say to the Cheatriot fans: * We can only hope this is the ca$e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I have no more respect for the Pats. Thats an article from Sports Illustrated. They have been doing this since 2000!!!! ............... Smooth criminals Patriots bring cheating in the NFL into modern era Sure, people cheat in sports. In baseball they steal signals. In football they bring in a guy for a week, someone who was just cut by the team they're going to play, pump him for information and let him go on Monday. They'll even plant spies at each other's practices. But the things that make this Patriots flap so bothersome are the following: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I have no more respect for the Pats. Aw. As if you had respect for them before this. This will intensify rivalries. Current rivals will hold this dear as yet another reason to hate the Patriots. Patriot fans, while non-plussed by the possibility of losing a draft pick, are more upset at getting caught than the crime itself. I'm in that camp myself. I think the biggest crime the Pats are guilty of is being incredibly, incredibly stupid about how blatant they were about the whole thing. Every team tries to steal signals. You just can't be idiotically blatant about it, which the Pats did and deserve to be punished for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoDevils Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Well, I for one, just hate the Pats. But being a Colts fan that should be obvious. Did root for them against the Eagles in the Super Bowl, only because Eagles fans at my job are worse. Its a level of cheating that will likely cost them a draft pick. It's not too late to embrace the Blue Shoe, Don! We'll just start you off on a P. Manning film/commercial mental programming. MakingLetting you watch all his commercials for 48 hours straight. Then, you are strapped, umm, seated in a nice comfy chair listening to Dungy's new book on audio book version for 24 hrs straight. Finally, as a droolingfanatic new Colts fan, you can impress all your friends by constantly mimicking Manning's checks at the line before a snap. Come over to the Shoe. Manning is your friend. Edited September 13, 2007 by LetsGoDevils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Aw. As if you had respect for them before this. This will intensify rivalries. Current rivals will hold this dear as yet another reason to hate the Patriots. Patriot fans, while non-plussed by the possibility of losing a draft pick, are more upset at getting caught than the crime itself. I'm in that camp myself. I think the biggest crime the Pats are guilty of is being incredibly, incredibly stupid about how blatant they were about the whole thing. Every team tries to steal signals. You just can't be idiotically blatant about it, which the Pats did and deserve to be punished for it. Gonna love that smiley What's ironic is..True, I never liked the Pats.Same goes for the Ravens,Bengals.But I respected those teams, after I took more maturity about the defeat back in the AFC Championship back in 2004-2005, I thought they were the smartest team in the NFL, the team ala the Devils.Good coachs changes, when they draft, they always seems to get the best player available ect... I think the Pats have to pay for what they did, Though, those signals sure helped the Pats, and even, you can't deny the fact that the Pats had a talented team since B.B came as the Head Coach(Minus 2000-2001..) But at this moment, I don't respect the Pats. Nono,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Well, I for one, just hate the Pats. But being a Colts fan that should be obvious. http://njdevs.com/forums/index.php?s=&...st&p=413268 Patriots and Colts are the two teams I go looking for on Sunday. And if they play at the same time, I PVR one and try to avoid looking at the score ticker at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) The NFL has decided the penelties to the Pats NFL throws the book at the Pats. If they make the playoffs (duh) they lose a 1st round pick. If not, its a 2nd and 3rd. Belicheck fined $500,000 Patriots fined 250,00 ESPN.com Edited September 14, 2007 by Devils Pride 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisZajac Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 The NFL has decided the penelties to the PatsNFL throws the book at the Pats. If they make the playoffs (duh) they lose a 1st round pick. If not, its a 2nd and 3rd. Belicheck fined $500,000 Patriots fined 250,00 ESPN.com Good news. I'm glad Goodell took the good decision.These penalties seems really fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Blah suspend the weasel for the big Charger game HAVE MORE BALLS NFL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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