hystyk28 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 According to Kevin Weekes, Brodeur has waived his NTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 In a perfect world I want Brodeur to be a career Devil but it just seems like it's best for both parties to part ways. Wish him the best. Him playing for another team won't change anything about his legacy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Honestly at this point I think he's mad at someone...either Lou for trading for Cory and displacing him as starter (and his buddy Hedberg off the team entirely), or Pete though I don't know why he'd be mad at Pete unless he thinks he was owed a 50-start season. There's no rational explanation for the guy kicking the tires to try to get himself traded all year just to play a small percentage of games more. I mean good christ, when you've played 1300 games or whatever it is, what's the difference between the 7-10 he might get elsewhere and the 4-5 he might get here? Minnesota does make sense though. Kuemper is an unproven goalie, and Marty is a nice safety blanket in case he flops. Not only that, Minny has a solid team this year, and are in good position to make the playoffs. Not only that, his two kids go to school in Minny at Shattucks St. Mary's. It's also a chance for him and Zach to be reunited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Ah Christ... It was easy this whole time talking about trading Marty when it was a hypothetical. But now that it's apparently about to happen... Not gonna lie it's tough to think about. He's been the man since I was a little kid watching the team.. It won't ruin his legacy for me one bit. But still, watching him don another Jersey will kill me a little bit. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Honestly at this point I think he's mad at someone...either Lou for trading for Cory and displacing him as starter (and his buddy Hedberg off the team entirely), or Pete though I don't know why he'd be mad at Pete unless he thinks he was owed a 50-start season. There's no rational explanation for the guy kicking the tires to try to get himself traded all year just to play a small percentage of games more. I mean good christ, when you've played 1300 games or whatever it is, what's the difference between the 7-10 he might get elsewhere and the 4-5 he might get here? I think it's Lou...not for trading for Cory but for not alerting Marty that he's trading for Cory. All of a sudden poof...here's your replacement and the future of the franchise...which by the way isn't you anymore. Perhaps Lou should have approached this more gently with the flaky Brodeur. But then again maybe this trade came out of the blue and he never got a chance too. Still, Brodeurs options are limited. Other than Minnesota I don't see another realistic destination for him (other than the absurd which I've mentioned before...Calgary) maybe Florida. Clemmensen or Thomas for Brodeur straight up. ha Lou may just hold firm here and Marty will have to sulk it out the rest of the season, and then there will be a parting of ways in the offseason. Edited March 2, 2014 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Ah Christ... It was easy this whole time talking about trading Marty when it was a hypothetical. But now that it's apparently about to happen... Not gonna lie it's tough to think about. He's been the man since I was a little kid watching the team.. It won't ruin his legacy for me one bit. But still, watching him don another Jersey will kill me a little bit. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Man some of the posters on HF don't share this sentiment. I agree with you though. This doesn't in any way tarnish his legacy. The guy has put his heart and soul into the Devils for 20+ years. When he was drafted by the Devils back 1990, this wasn't exactly a ideal place to play hockey, much like Mario in Pittsburgh. In both cases, neither place was a traditional hockey market. Mario stayed loyal to Pittsburgh, and hockey flourished in Pittsburgh because of Mario. Hockey is imo pretty popular here in NJ. Marty was a big part of it. Fayne Stanley on HF is really starting to aggravate me btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 frankly, i would be fine getting a 4th for him which isn't very much of anything. but i get the feeling lou might even get more. this could be a janssen for salvador type heist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort4345 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 There's no way Marty gets traded for a fourth-round draft pick straight up. I think they get at least a 2nd or some prospect equivalent. I also think if he goes it's to the Wild. I live in Minneapolis and there's been a lot of discussion in the local media about just such a trade. It will be interesting to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I've have a feeling about Minnesota... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I think Lou will be able to get a good return for Marty. Marty is a living off reputation but that could play in the Devils favour. I mean how many teams would be interested in a goalie with his stats who was being shopped not called Brodeur? I can see Lou somehow getting player/prospect + a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) frankly, i would be fine getting a 4th for him which isn't very much of anything. but i get the feeling lou might even get more. this could be a janssen for salvador type heist I don't think it will necessarily be a heist, but if he's dealt, I do think we'll all be pleasantly surprised by the return. Brodeur is still a brand name, even though his numbers aren't good. I do think some GMs still get caught up in the experience/name factor. If Lou and Marty decide it's time for Marty to move on despite the return, it will kind of suck to get nothing more than a mid-round pick for him...not because that kind of return isn't an accurate showing of Marty's current value (it pretty much is), but because it kind of blows to see a guy who meant so much to this franchise for so long get dealt away for almost nothing...knowing Marty, he'll probably use that as a motivational tool. But if Marty decides he really doesn't want to be here anymore and teams simply aren't willing to give up anything, Lou's hands are tied. Edited March 2, 2014 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxchaznjxx Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I would love a prospect and pick for Marty, but who exactly will be our insurance policy in case CS tweaks a groin or hurts his back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I would love a prospect and pick for Marty, but who exactly will be our insurance policy in case CS tweaks a groin or hurts his back? That's another big question. Lou clearly didn't believe that Kinkaid could eventually become a 55-65 starts per year type (he doesn't trade for Schneider otherwise...he could've brought in a stopgap), but does Lou think Kinkaid can approximate Hedberg-circa-2010-2012? If Lou trades for a backup, either in a Marty deal or a separate one, then you have your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I think it's Lou...not for trading for Cory but for not alerting Marty that he's trading for Cory. All of a sudden poof...here's your replacement and the future of the franchise...which by the way isn't you anymore. Perhaps Lou should have approached this more gently with the flaky Brodeur. But then again maybe this trade came out of the blue and he never got a chance too. Still, Brodeurs options are limited. Other than Minnesota I don't see another realistic destination for him (other than the absurd which I've mentioned before...Calgary) maybe Florida. Clemmensen or Thomas for Brodeur straight up. ha Lou may just hold firm here and Marty will have to sulk it out the rest of the season, and then there will be a parting of ways in the offseason. honestly, I really think Marty just realizes he's not going to be here next year, so why not get out of dodge now so it benefits everyone involved- Marty can go someplace to try and prove he's still worth a contract for next year, and the devils get some return for him going.If he isn't moved which sounds unlikely now, it's not because Lou refused to do so. IMO if Marty is set on going, lou will definitely find a place for him to go to. His respect for Marty is too high to not work something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 frankly, i would be fine getting a 4th for him which isn't very much of anything. but i get the feeling lou might even get more. this could be a janssen for salvador type heist Apparently more than one team is interested and it seems like Halak is the only other goalie on the market. I wouldn't be shocked if we get a second. The Isles game might have helped a lot. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 If it is a trade with Minny I would hope Lou could get Harding in return despite him being out indefinitely this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) seems like him going to Minny will be happening. So what do we want from them really lets say its happening? id like to get a prospect or something like Zucker or wtv but i cant see that happening... he wont fetch anymore more than a pick id guess and not a first or a 2nd either Edited March 2, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I got my tickets for the Minnesota game this morning. They're still cheap. If Marty ends up going there, I doubt they'll be cheap for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 god all those reports saying Marty waived his NTC makes me feel really weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 seems like him going to Minny will be happening. So what do we want from them really lets say its happening? id like to get a prospect or something like Zucker or wtv but i cant see that happening... he wont fetch anymore more than a pick id guess and not a first or a 2nd either If it's a 4th you'd have to be happy with it. It's more than he's worth (future considerations or so) but you never know...name cache and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion15 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 can't any whole-career Devil just retire with the Devils anymore and not retire with another team? Why can't we have more players like Daneyko who are career Devils? Are we going to be having the same talks about Elias now in a couple years when his contract is up? I dunno it was one thing with Neids going to Anaheim because he wanted the chance to play with his brother, but it's another with this whole Marty BS. I know he wants to play more but honestly I can't see anyone making him a starter and it kind of tarnishes his legacy a little bit if he doesn't end his career here after all he's done for the org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 TG said that Kevin Weekes didn't twitter anything about Marty waiving his NTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 can't any whole-career Devil just retire with the Devils anymore and not retire with another team? Why can't we have more players like Daneyko who are career Devils? Are we going to be having the same talks about Elias now in a couple years when his contract is up? I dunno it was one thing with Neids going to Anaheim because he wanted the chance to play with his brother, but it's another with this whole Marty BS. I know he wants to play more but honestly I can't see anyone making him a starter and it kind of tarnishes his legacy a little bit if he doesn't end his career here after all he's done for the org. It's happening all over the league - Alfredsson, St. Louis, even Iginla though that was a mutual decision. We're not exclusive to having our stars leave at the end of their career although it's getting annoying in general seeing ALL these guys go away at the tail end of their career. TG said that Kevin Weekes didn't twitter anything about Marty waiving his NTC He said it on TV apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) This idea of players going to another team in the twilight of their careers is nothing new and happens in all sports. Edited March 2, 2014 by CarpathianForest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 It does feel weird. I'm still not entirely ruling out Marty realizing he's not what he was and sticking around and retiring at the end of the season as a Devil (the scenario I think most Devils fans would prefer to see), but that seems more and more like a longshot every minute. Seems like he wants to set himself up for playing next season. can't any whole-career Devil just retire with the Devils anymore and not retire with another team? Why can't we have more players like Daneyko who are career Devils? Are we going to be having the same talks about Elias now in a couple years when his contract is up? I dunno it was one thing with Neids going to Anaheim because he wanted the chance to play with his brother, but it's another with this whole Marty BS. I know he wants to play more but honestly I can't see anyone making him a starter and it kind of tarnishes his legacy a little bit if he doesn't end his career here after all he's done for the org. In bold: this is so unfair. He gave you all of his very best, and often gave the Devils discounts to do it (at the very least, he made each re-signing process relatively painless, once he canned his agent). Think any other goalie will be winning 683 games with one franchise anytime soon? Anytime ever? Again, look at the other goalies in his ballpark, in terms of games played and wins...all of them except Marty played for more than one team, and in their primes for that matter. Marty has more than earned the right to play somewhere else and if he and some other team think he can help them, can't he explore that without it "tarnishing his legacy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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