NJDF Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Not exactly sure who Parise reminds me of. I like the Verbeek and MacLean comparisons. I do not agree at all about Bure though. Totally different type of player. Bure was very fast, very smooth, great puckhandler but a chronic cherry picker. Bure and Mogliny reminded me of each other. Bure and Mogilny were snipers. Parise is less of a pure goal scorer but a more well rounded player....IMO. GO DEVILS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Not sure of many will remember this guy, but Parise is pretty much a copy of Brian Bellows. Size, skating style, tenacity around the net, able to handle the puck in traffic, tireless worker around the boards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Not sure of many will remember this guy, but Parise is pretty much a copy of Brian Bellows. Size, skating style, tenacity around the net, able to handle the puck in traffic, tireless worker around the boards.... Interesting, his best days were before my time. I remember him in Montreal on the cup run. He was a trivia answer to the youngest captain in NHL history. Very underated player in Minnesota. Another comparison people won't like is Jason Blake when playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 John MacLean, Jason Blake... I can take that. Paul Kariya, Pavel Bure... are you just naming random all-stars? seriously now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 John MacLean, Jason Blake... I can take that.Paul Kariya, Pavel Bure... are you just naming random all-stars? seriously now. I think he plays more like Eric Lindros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilNurn Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I like Kariya for a comparison, but I don't see Bure. And he has a lot of assists, but they're a different kind of assists than Bure's, and even from Elias' for that matter. Let's take a couple of the last few games for an example. This is an Elias assist: The video is crap, but he creates the play, shovels the puck over and makes a play which isn't very threatening and makes a play for a player who, admittedly, isn't all that threatening (Gionta), into a dangerous one. This is a Parise assist: http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8459457 (Click the play button on the video on the page) He gets behind the net, does the dirty work, shovels it to Langenbrunner and makes good of the power play and the threatening play in general. I think there are PLENTY of counter-examples for both of them, and in a lot of ways, Elias and Parise may end up being similar players. But in terms of the Bure comparison, the Bure playmaker and the Parise playmaker are two totally different animals. Admittedly, I can't find a direct comparison for Parise, partly because I'm still pretty young and haven't been paying very close attention to hockey for more than four years or so. A lot of the way he plays reminds me of Gionta's remarkable 05-06, except on a more consistent basis. I can't find a player who's just like Parise, but all I know is he's damn good and works damn well with our system. He's no Bure. He might be a Kariya. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Kariya was not good along the boards and beat everyone off the rush. His wrist shot is also among the best ever. Kariya is closer to Bure then Parise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 He is a hard player to compare against. J.P Parise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutTheForkDown Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Lots of good thoughts in here, (for the most part), I don Edited March 25, 2009 by PutTheForkDown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I dont think Kariya and Parise are similar at all. Like someone mentioned, id put Yzerman as a better comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutTheForkDown Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 I dont think Kariya and Parise are similar at all. Like someone mentioned, id put Yzerman as a better comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 TrentonDevils is that you?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickwall30 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I saw someone here mention it ealier and it was the only thing that comes to mind with notorious players and that was the comparison to Gionta's amazing post-lockout year. Gionta was playing exactly the same as Parise is this year in that he found the soft spots in down low coverage and capitalized on the rebounds that came out. they both had relentless forechecking and outbattled anyone they went up against. Both were able to beat goalies with a shot but it was generally more about in tight plays and shot placement rather than over-powering goalies which is why I don't like most of the allstar player comparisons because a VAST majority of those Kariya, Bure, Zetterburg, etc, etc. all had incredible shots and really only used there other skills to get in a positiion to fire the puck. The other good comparison to a player your girlfriend might know better is the st. louise comparison again marty has a slightly better shot perhaps, but I think the allstar game showed as well that Parise has a very similar game to St. Louise and you could tell by how seemlessly he fit in with that line there. obviously to base it off of one allstar game would be rediculous, but if you watch some tampa games you will see that he generally does the same thing as Parise most notably slipping out of coverage and into soft spots down low to fire pucks from below the arc across the hashmarks along with ceaseless forechecking and those are the real hallmarks to Parise's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutTheForkDown Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 I saw someone here mention it ealier and it was the only thing that comes to mind with notorious players and that was the comparison to Gionta's amazing post-lockout year. Gionta was playing exactly the same as Parise is this year in that he found the soft spots in down low coverage and capitalized on the rebounds that came out. they both had relentless forechecking and outbattled anyone they went up against. Both were able to beat goalies with a shot but it was generally more about in tight plays and shot placement rather than over-powering goalies which is why I don't like most of the allstar player comparisons because a VAST majority of those Kariya, Bure, Zetterburg, etc, etc. all had incredible shots and really only used there other skills to get in a positiion to fire the puck.The other good comparison to a player your girlfriend might know better is the st. louise comparison again marty has a slightly better shot perhaps, but I think the allstar game showed as well that Parise has a very similar game to St. Louise and you could tell by how seemlessly he fit in with that line there. obviously to base it off of one allstar game would be rediculous, but if you watch some tampa games you will see that he generally does the same thing as Parise most notably slipping out of coverage and into soft spots down low to fire pucks from below the arc across the hashmarks along with ceaseless forechecking and those are the real hallmarks to Parise's game. Good post, good points - I would personally say that St. Louis is closer to a bure or kariya type player, because he relies pretty heavily on his overwhelming bursts of speed and blistering shot. But you know what, they are all their own players with their own games. Its just nice to have a forward on the Devils that we can even compare to guys like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshockey247 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 On TSN's video "The Quiz," they compare Parise and Crosby and surprisingly they all agreed that Parise is having a better year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkoreankid23 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I like the Gionta comparison except for the fact Parise is more skilled than Gionta. What about a Hossa or Fedorov comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I like the Gionta comparison except for the fact Parise is more skilled than Gionta. What about a Hossa or Fedorov comparison? Not even close, they are the european version of power forwards. They use their size and strength to protect the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I don't love the Gionta comparison because he has never been able to create for himself (and others) as well as Zach. I have no love for Gomez, but Gio always did his best work when Gomez was playing well. This year, if Elias has struggled, so has Gio. Parise makes everyone around him better, and even when he's slumping (the past week), he's still getting assists. Nobody made plays like Gio in 05-06, but he needed some help getting started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Here is the video where they ask the TSN panel who has had the better year: Parise or Crosby http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/#clip154087 There is mention of the Parise's Better chant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyPilot18 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Comparison Parise and Jesus ...Discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutTheForkDown Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 I remember a couple weeks back, (forget what game it was), but Chico was comparing Parise to Crosby. My personal distaste for Sidney forces me to not accept this comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 ComparisonParise and Jesus ...Discuss Jesus walked on water but Parise freezes it first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 How about Theo fleury sans the attitude? Both gritty players not afraid to get their hands dirty both put up similar amount of points over their first 4 season (Theo 277 Zach 247 (so far)) ?? Both have a pretty similar projection to their career early on as well, supposed to be to small to play in the NHL, but made up for lack of stature with good leadership scoring ability and sound defensive work as well as being tireless and giving 110%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickwall30 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Jesus walked on water but Parise freezes it first? I prefer this: jesus can walk on water but the water woud still be frozen ice if parise didn't like it on fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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