Chere asks Lou questions without Lou present

[BostonNala370]

Will Lou respond and with more than "Status Quo" ?? Is Lou under pressure?

 

1. Why haven't you signed Scott Gomez?

 

2. Where is Paul Thompson?

 

3. How did this team become so fragile?

 

4. Was Keith Kinkaid recalled from the minors to be a relief goalie?

 

5. Is there a trade to be made?

 

 

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2014/11/5_questions_for_devils_general_manager_lou_lamoriello.html

 

Are the new owners under pressure, regarding the "Rock Experience" ?

 

Face Book with a petition to fire DeBoer. 

http://www.change.org/p/lou-lamoriello-and-the-nj-devils-fire-peter-deboer?utm_campaign=friend_inviter_chat&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=permissions_dialog_false&share_id=lDEgHjEbuc#news

Edited November 9, 2014 by BostonNala370

[Devil Dan 56]

Slightly misleading title as Lou didn't actually participate in this article.

[DevilMinder]

Yea, more like Chere thinks outloud is what I would have Titled this.

[Devil Dan 56]

I'll give some logic based shots...

1) It's Scott Gomez. If you sign him now, what do you do when Henrique is back, especially with Josefson making a case to play?

2) They might want to see what Thompson has. Until this year he was a career minor leaguer that didn't have impressive numbers. He also had 15 points in 69 AHL games last year.

3) Injuries happen. Henrique got hurt jumping over the boards. What can you do about something like that?

4) Give it a chance. He hasn't even had a week of NHL practices yet. He'll get his starts.

5) Probably at the deadline depending how the team looks. They don't have the pieces to get anything amazing, but they could trade off the older guys for draft picks.

[BostonNala370]

Yea, more like Chere thinks outloud is what I would have Titled this.

 

Can you change the title, thanks, I can't

[devilsrule33]

Besides not actually being asked to Lou, these aren't "tough" questions BN370. Paul Thompson? Is he this year's version of Joe Whitney?

 

And for fvck sakes Chere, if you want to know the answers to these questions, ask them and then post the answers to your blog. Not this crap.

Edited November 9, 2014 by devilsrule33

[Derlique]

Lol Chere. It's not like you don't have access to Lou...

[Muevelos]

Lol he could have asked. And the first two aren't even "tough questions".

[NJDevs4978]

Lol Chere. It's not like you don't have access to Lou...

He might not after his hatchet job interview of Pete lol

[2ELIAS6]

another bs article.

[Mike Brown]

Being a GM isn't as easy as we think it is.

[BostonNala370]

Writers won't ask the tough questions because of the fear of losing their relationship. But any questioning and open petitions shows a concern of the fan base. The Devils management know the fan base is upset. When have there been player profiles like Salvador? Devils management are in trouble and they are reacting.

Ticket sales, ticket sales, revenue, revenue from food and merchandize.

"In Lou We Trust" is over.

[devlman]

Besides not actually being asked to Lou, these aren't "tough" questions BN370. Paul Thompson? Is he this year's version of Joe Whitney?

 

And for fvck sakes Chere, if you want to know the answers to these questions, ask them and then post the answers to your blog. Not this crap.

 

Why the fvck doesnt Chere ask Lou himself? Is he afriad?  I wish our reporters would stop kissing Lou's ass and being fearful of him.

[BostonNala370]

Chere the question for Lou is: Why are you still in your job with your recent failures?

Why did you give Clowe the contract that you did? The worst ever!

Why did you hire DeBoer?

Why don't you fire DeBoer?

What is your short term strategy for the Devils?

What is your long term strategy for the Devild?

Do you want your son to replace you as GM and maybe President?

Lou has used up his capital! He is done if the owners would open their eyes and focus on the team!

[Devil Dan 56]

Question for Lou

Why do you have a job when people on njdevs.com know how to be a GM?

It's so simple! Why, just sign really good players for below market value, pick a coach that can win cups with his eyes closed, and know what will happen before it does! Why didn't Lou think of that?!?

[StarDew]

Seems we need Carnac the Magnificent. 

[caron14]

Man we can be so ridiculous. Loi is doing good. Not that great lately, but you cant do anything about injury on 5 top nine forward at the same time.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

Not killing Lou, but both Cam and especially Havlat are injury-prone. And Clowe had a concussion history before Lou signed him.

[Devil Dan 56]

Not killing Lou, but both Cam and especially Havlat are injury-prone. And Clowe had a concussion history before Lou signed him.

Very true. Havlat at his money was worth the risk. Cam is hopefully good for 65 - 70 games most years. Clowe, I have a feeling the extra years were the only way he was coming here. Until Matteau is ready to step up, we are probably going to be dealing with Clowe in and out. I assume he retires long before that contract is up regardless

[SterioDesign]

Question for Lou

Why do you have a job when people on njdevs.com know how to be a GM?

It's so simple! Why, just sign really good players for below market value, pick a coach that can win cups with his eyes closed, and know what will happen before it does! Why didn't Lou think of that?!?

 

I get that you're a really big Lou defender. But ask yourself this.

 

How many GMs would let 3 30 goals scorers + some other assets walk for nothing within 2 years. Miss the playoffs 3 years out of 4. Handing very bad contracts that is hurting the team. Almost purposely build the slowest and oldest team in the league and have a very very uncertain future aligned based on our poor prospect pool and depth and aging core player. And still have a job after all that? Gms have been fired for a lot less. You can bring all his past accomplishments up but just like Brodeur and Mario Lemieux... that doesnt mean they should still be playing and still have it no matter what they did in the past, they'd be hurting their team now just like Lou is hurting the team now

 

I mean forget that this is me repeating the same damn thing over and over and forget that you'd give a kidney for Lou. And just read this black on white statement and take off your blinders. 

 

You may not agree with me/us on some stuff but this is what it is. It's obviously not easy to be a GM but Lou was simply below average for the last few years and it's certainly not good enough for a team in our shape.

Edited November 9, 2014 by SterioDesign

[CarpathianForest]

I get that you're a really big Lou defender. But ask yourself this.

 

How many GMs would let 3 30 goals scorers + some other assets walk for nothing within 2 years. Miss the playoffs 3 years out of 4. Handing very bad contracts that is hurting the team. Almost purposely build the slowest and oldest team in the league and have a very very uncertain future aligned based on our poor prospect pool and depth and aging core player. And still have a job after all that? Gms have been fired for a lot less. You can bring all his past accomplishments up but just like Brodeur and Mario Lemieux... that doesnt mean they should still be playing and still have it no matter what they did in the past, they'd be hurting their team now just like Lou is hurting the team now

 

I mean forget that this is me repeating the same damn thing over and over and forget that you'd give a kidney for Lou. And just read this black on white statement and take off your blinders. 

 

You may not agree with me/us on some stuff but this is what it is. It's obviously not easy to be a GM but Lou was simply below average for the last few years and it's certainly not good enough for a team in our shape.

 

 

To be fair Lou didn't let those 3 30 goal players walk.

[Devil Dan 56]

I get that you're a really big Lou defender. But ask yourself this.

How many GMs would let 3 30 goals scorers + some other assets walk for nothing within 2 years. Miss the playoffs 3 years out of 4. Handing very bad contracts that is hurting the team. Almost purposely build the slowest and oldest team in the league and have a very very uncertain future aligned based on our poor prospect pool and depth and aging core player. And still have a job after all that? Gms have been fired for a lot less. You can bring all his past accomplishments up but just like Brodeur and Mario Lemieux... that doesnt mean they should still be playing and still have it no matter what they did in the past, they'd be hurting their team now just like Lou is hurting the team now

I mean forget that this is me repeating the same damn thing over and over and forget that you'd give a kidney for Lou. And just read this black on white statement and take off your blinders.

You may not agree with me/us on some stuff but this is what it is. It's obviously not easy to be a GM but Lou was simply below average for the last few years and it's certainly not good enough for a team in our shape.

So much bull to sift through. One of those 30 goal scorers left because ownership wanted to commit to the other, who then RETIRED AT AGE 30!!! It's pathetic that you try to put that in Lou. The 3rd "30 goal scorer" will most likely never score 30 again. The only way to keep him was to sign him to one of those awful contracts that you constantly complain about. You know, the ones that are a necessity in the NHL right now.

Now, when you lose those players it takes YEARS to replace them. You have to fill the holes as best you can through free agency. When you are consistently drafting at about 21st every year, you don't get the impact players. So rebuilding a team then takes a lot of time. The Devils have put together a great young defensive group together, and only you in your infinite knowledge would complain that they should waive the magic wand and make great young forwards appear instead.

I wouldn't give a kidney for Lou. I don't love him like you love Zach. I'm not wearing blinders. I can just tell that when you have a long history of winning, there will eventually be a fallout and a rebuild process. A lot of us have the patience to let it happen. You don't. You want wins and continuous prosperity without the bad times. No team has that. It's not a Lou thing. Id defend any GM who is trying to rebuild from the goal out. I'm sure you'll get sick of the next GM pretty quickly as well.

Not one team in the NHL built themselves up without losing for a while first. Go ahead, look at any big team in the last 20 years and see how they were built. 90% probably had a lot of bad years first. Ask yourself why it should be any different for the Devils?

Edited November 10, 2014 by Devil Dan 56

[William D'Aquila]

So much bull to sift through. One of those 30 goal scorers left because ownership wanted to commit to the other, who then RETIRED AT AGE 30!!! It's pathetic that you try to put that in Lou. The 3rd "30 goal scorer" will most likely never score 30 again. The only way to keep him was to sign him to one of those awful contracts that you constantly complain about. You know, the ones that are a necessity in the NHL right now.

Now, when you lose those players it takes YEARS to replace them. You have to fill the holes as best you can through free agency. When you are consistently drafting at about 21st every year, you don't get the impact players. So rebuilding a team then takes a lot of time. The Devils have put together a great young defensive group together, and only you in your infinite knowledge would complain that they should waive the magic wand and make great young forwards appear instead.

I wouldn't give a kidney for Lou. I don't love him like you love Zach. I'm not wearing blinders. I can just tell that when you have a long history of winning, there will eventually be a fallout and a rebuild process. A lot of us have the patience to let it happen. You don't. You want wins and continuous prosperity without the bad times. No team has that. It's not a Lou thing. Id defend any GM who is trying to rebuild from the goal out. I'm sure you'll get sick of the next GM pretty quickly as well.

Not one team in the NHL built themselves up without losing for a while first. Go ahead, look at any big team in the last 20 years and see how they were built. 90% probably had a lot of bad years first. Ask yourself why it should be any different for the Devils?

 

Great post

[CarpathianForest]

I think Nashville got it right this season: The right mix of vets and young guys.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

SD, seriously, at this point, why don't you just start a separate thread dedicated to how you feel about Lou (though we already know), so when your same bullet points come up for debate yet again (Lou "letting" 3 30-goal scorers walk, which is not at all accurate on multiple levels, and leaves out a hell of a lot of details), they won't spill into multiple threads.   

 

I decided a while ago that I wasn't going to debate you on this stuff anymore because I know where it leads.  Intelligent and well-thought-out posters like DD56 still do, and I don't blame them for trying, but like I said, it just doesn't get anywhere.  All I will say is DD56 nailed it (as have others) when he said that prosperity doesn't last forever, and that every team suffers a down cycle eventually (I know I've told you this before, but it's as true now as it was then).  In Lou's insanely long tenure as Devils' GM (just the length of his tenure alone practically guaranteed we'd eventually go through a period like this), you're experiencing the Devils' first true downturn.  We all know what contributed to it...the same things that often lead to downturns (draftees not working out, key players getting old, etc).  It is what it is.  Good news is Lou found a good goalie in his prime (as could be expected to pick up where Marty left off), and he's found some young defensemen who are in the lineup and contributing.  Yeah, the forward corp is far from awe-inspiring, but quite a few of the less-inspiring players are going to be gone within the next two seasons, and far as defensemen go, Sal's history as soon as this season is over, at the latest, and Zids is probably following suit, as long as Severson doesn't fall to pieces.  And some of the short-term guys can be moved around the deadline if this team is tanking. 

 

The last few games have been ugly, but the good news is a good chunk of this team's problems can be tied to the penalty kill.  20 goals allowed on the PK, 65.5%.  Maybe the Devils' PK is not going to be great this season, but I can't see it remaining under 70% bad.  It will improve.  There ARE reasons for optimism, some of which is tied into how soon Cam gets back into the lineup.  But let's face it, I don't know how anyone could've expected more than a bubble team this season...this was very much an "IF" group coming in. 

 

But anyway, obviously you have the right to state your opinions, but being that just about everyone who spends considerable time on the site knows how you feel about Lou at this point, maybe it's time to just start a "SD's Feeings re: Lou's Job Performance" thread, so at least the (often heated) debates that will result won't be spread out over several different threads.  Just a suggestion.