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Poll: Lockout 2012-2013 (Hockey's back!) (130 member(s) have cast votes)

When will we see hockey?

  1. Oct 12 (10 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  2. Nov 12 (19 votes [14.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.62%

  3. Dec 12 (26 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. Jan 13 (33 votes [25.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.38%

  5. Feb 13 (1 votes [0.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.77%

  6. Mar 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Apr 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Oct 13 (14 votes [10.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.77%

  9. Never (27 votes [20.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.77%

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#501 Triumph

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:57 PM

It's just posturing. I expect there to be more urgency tomorrow or Wednesday


I doubt anything happens this week. And the NHL is going to pretend that that last offer was a 'final offer' - if they make another formal offer, it might back off the previous one.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 07:06 PM

I doubt anything happens this week. And the NHL is going to pretend that that last offer was a 'final offer' - if they make another formal offer, it might back off the previous one.

Honestly, who the hell knows anymore? It seems that both parties are interested in preserving an 82 game season, whether anyone backs off is a whole other story.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

NHL allowed GM's to talk to players over the weekend according to Bill Daly. That is interesting.


Here are the tweets for everyone to see




@TEAM1040: RT @louisjean_tva: #NHL GM's'were afforded a 48 hour window this weekend to discuss league proposal with players. (1/2)

@TEAM1040: RT @louisjean_tva: Bill Daly says : "Permitted to answer player questions about the proposal we tabled last week"


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:20 AM


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#NJD Kovalchuk joins Ovechkin saying "I do not rule out that if the salaries are cut I will stay in the ##KHL." (via Sportbox)

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:26 AM


@dchesnokov

#NJD Kovalchuk joins Ovechkin saying "I do not rule out that if the salaries are cut I will stay in the ##KHL." (via Sportbox)

Oh boy...
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#506 Marshall

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:28 AM

Yeah, right.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:37 AM

@dchesnokov
#NJD Kovalchuk joins Ovechkin saying "I do not rule out that if the salaries are cut I will stay in the ##KHL." (via Sportbox)



More posturing. We'd be silly to not imagine that the Fehrs are sending all the high profile players their speaking notes and talking points. Ovechkin, Parise (last week), and now Kovalchuk are speaking out. It's a union and these are their highest paid players, so they need them to lead the way..
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:38 AM

That seems to be more of an empty threat. Dont know why hes trying to threaten the league. He did the same thing in his contract summer and they showed that they did not care if he left or not.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:45 AM

That seems to be more of an empty threat. Dont know why hes trying to threaten the league. He did the same thing in his contract summer and they showed that they did not care if he left or not.



Nah, the media (and his Russian agent-friend) did. I don't think he ever said anything other than wanting to stay in the NHL.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:25 AM

Im pretty sure he had said that his first choice is the nhl but if things didnt get done soon he wud go to the khl. This was towards the end of august or beginning of september. i think it wasis around the time the nhl was using his contract as a baragining chip
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:46 PM

@CellyHardAppare: @NoNHLLockout12 #NHLPA has a conference call this evening between representatives within their own group to update offer made last week #NHL

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:49 PM

@CellyHardAppare: @NoNHLLockout12 #NHLPA has a conference call this evening between representatives within their own group to update offer made last week #NHL

. Hmmm... Maybe Fehr 'ran the numbers.' :P


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 03:47 PM

Im pretty sure he had said that his first choice is the nhl but if things didnt get done soon he wud go to the khl. This was towards the end of august or beginning of september. i think it wasis around the time the nhl was using his contract as a baragining chip


If his second contract had been rejected, I have little doubt he would've played for SKA in 2010-11. It's possible that he could have stayed in Russia after that.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:37 PM

Jeez HFBoards is so anti-PA, especially after this, it's ridiculous.. I was mad at the PA for a bit after they shot down the League offer but I'd say I'm back with the players

I just don't see how communication can be a bad thing
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:27 PM

Jeez HFBoards is so anti-PA, especially after this, it's ridiculous.. I was mad at the PA for a bit after they shot down the League offer but I'd say I'm back with the players

I just don't see how communication can be a bad thing


Oh god, I can only imagine the idiocy being posted over there.

Communication is useless when you are trying to pretend that your side hasn't moved.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:53 PM

Jeez HFBoards is so anti-PA, especially after this, it's ridiculous.. I was mad at the PA for a bit after they shot down the League offer but I'd say I'm back with the players

I just don't see how communication can be a bad thing


The PA's not doing anything, they're not offering a proposal or moving themselves. All they offered to do is talk, and about what exactly? Another proposal Fehr wrote on a used notepad? This is just a PR grab on their part the way the owners' one-sided offer was a PR grab on their part. This whole lockout is - surprise, surprise - the owners trying to bully a deal, and Fehr being unyielding and not offering any compromise himself. And both sides more worried about PR than bridging the divide.

And of course everyone'll be a loser when it's all said and done, except the handful of owners who hate hockey and would rather not play than have any deal that isn't 110% favoring them.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 23 October 2012 - 11:56 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:51 PM

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:34 PM

Bettman is laying down the law via TGs latest tweets. Just as a I expected, no meetings and now that the 82 game wall is staring the parties in the face it won't take much for this to degrade even further with the Owners have less fear of using their big weapons (game cancellations).

Bettman pretty much just said no meetings until you agree our contract is the base to begin from.
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:35 PM

Didnt the PA make 0 offers/proposals for like a month. Then when the league made the 50/50 proposal last week, then the PA made 3 proposals, which were immediately shot down? While Bettman svcks, the Fehr twins don't know how to negotiate and are not in it to save the season. I hate everyone involved in this. Both sides are not willing to negotiate as they are afraid it would show weakness. F-em all.
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:43 PM

This sucks big time. Both sides suck, but now I'm with the owners. If they really mean when they say they want to save the 82 game season, then both sides should get their heads out of their asses and work together on a deal that everyone can be satisfied. The sport is hockey, not greed. :angry: :( :rant:
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