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#301 devilsrule33

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:40 PM

You can't ask Brodeur to bail this team out. If Stevens is not back we are in trouble.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:42 PM

Since November, interesting that you just arbitrarily select that date.

I'm waiting until we get Kozlov, Hrdina, and Stevens healthy to judge this team. When we played the Lightning, we were without 4 of our top players. But I think Lou's built a good one here, as good as he could've built considering the pieces he had to work with.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:42 PM

Even with Stevens back, we are a marginally good team..
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:43 PM

Since November, interesting that you just arbitrarily select that date.

I'm waiting until we get Kozlov, Hrdina, and Stevens healthy to judge this team. When we played the Lightning, we were without 4 of our top players. But I think Lou's built a good one here, as good as he could've built considering the pieces he had to work with.

Just curious you seem to be counting on Stevens allot so you must have the timetable for his return could you let me in on it?
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:44 PM

Right, and this is proven by what? The team is in 6th with their best defenseman out, coming off Cup hangover. I predicted this team would finish in 6th before the season. It says NOTHING about how they will play in the playoffs, unless you believe they are fatigued.

There's no team that wants to face the Devils and Brodeur, I can tell you that.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:45 PM

Hey Tri, I love how you arbitrarily assume Stevens and Kozlov will one be coming back soon, and two, that they will make this team even incrementally better.....
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:46 PM

I disagree wholeheartedly with that statement about no one wanting to face us.....

Every team wants to beat us and Brodeur, we are marked men these days......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:47 PM

Kozlov has begun skating, he'll be back in two weeks. Will he improve the team, maybe not right away. He was acquired for the playoffs, for when we're up against big centers.

It's a poor assumption on my part that a Conn Smythe winning Hall of Fame defenseman, captain of the team, will make the team any better. Silly me.

Those of you who doubt Stevens' will are incredible. He came back from a concussion to play a night later, only to score a goal and be a dominant presence as usual. He'll be back for the playoffs.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:47 PM

Hey Tri, I love how you arbitrarily assume Stevens and Kozlov will one be coming back soon, and two, that they will make this team even incrementally better.....


So you don't think the team is better with Kozlvo and Stevens than without? Come on, thats just being silly. Stevens is close to skating and Kozlov has been skating so I would expect Kozlov to be back in uniform very soon and Stevens by the start of the playoffs just to give him as much time as possible to rest.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:48 PM

People seem to forget that the only defensemen who have played well for us this year are Nieds Raffy and White......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:49 PM

Not White, I meant Martin....
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:51 PM

People seem to forget that the only defensemen who have played well for us this year are Nieds Raffy and White......

Ya, the defense that has been challenging the lowest goals against ever mark has really struggled for most of this season...

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:51 PM

Stevens is 39 going on 40.......He makes the team better, but how much better......

His effect is more emotional, and leadership-based.....

I may be underrating his performance effect, but you are far overrating his input into the whole picture......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:53 PM

This team is challenging the goals allowed mark for one reason only:

Brodeur

If you watch the games, youll see how poorly guys like White, Hale, and Brown have played.....

White is especially good for his 4 minute minors......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:53 PM

People seem to forget that the only defensemen who have played well for us this year are Nieds Raffy and White......

Ya, the defense that has been challenging the lowest goals against ever mark has really struggled for most of this season...

-Scott

They had a good first half, you cannot deny that our defense has slipped considerably since right before the all star break.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:55 PM

Brodeurs GAA has steadily risen in the last 3-4 weeks.........
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:56 PM

Stevens led the playoffs in +/- last season. He played against Joe Thornton, Martin St. Louis, Marian Hossa, and Paul Kariya, and led the playoffs in +/-.

The Stevens is washed up card has been played for a long time and it hasn't been true since 99. The guy changes the way teams play the Devils. They do not go into Scott Stevens' corner unless they are tough.

When you get your best defenseman back, it means everyone can slide themselves back into their familiar roles. It means everyone will go back to playing where they are accustomed to playing, and where they play best.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:56 PM

coldply is talking out of his rectum. Our goals against is well over 2 without Stevens in the line-up, and well under 2 when he is. Our record is way better with him than without him too. It's still respectable without him, mind you.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:56 PM

Well Ive had enough disappointment for one day..............See You Guys Later.......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:58 PM

Actually Tri, one of the reasons guys like Thornton and Hossa did not fare as well is because of Niedermayer, Nieds speed is an asset, and he was the one who got more of the assignment on those guys.........
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