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#321 coldply123

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:59 PM

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:59 PM

People seem to forget that the only defensemen who have played well for us this year are Nieds Raffy and White......

Ya, the defense that has been challenging the lowest goals against ever mark has really struggled for most of this season...

-Scott

They had a good first half, you cannot deny that our defense has slipped considerably since right before the all star break.


That really should say they had an amazing first half and a good second half, most of which has been played without Stevens. So I'm not worry at all about a defense that even without Stevens is still good and that with him was amazing. I won't ignore the majority of the season just because recent play hasn't been as spectacular.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:00 PM

Hossa did play some against Niedermayer, but Thornton absolutely was matched up with Stevens. Either way, Stevens played against Alfredsson or Hossa.

I mean, when you look for the Devils to get a guy like Witt or Carney at the deadline, you're going to be disappointed. Lou never does that. Last time he did that was when he got Chambers. Guys he trades for always play on the 3rd pairing.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:00 PM

Majority? Entirety says were in 6th.....
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:01 PM

Tri, youre right, I am disappointed.......I really firmly believe the odds are against us this year.......I hope Im wrong, trust me I do, but I dont like the odds
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:01 PM

Majority? Entirety says were in 6th.....


We were talking about the teams defense and how they have performed over the season, not what place the team is in currently.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:04 PM

BTW, Pierre Maguire also picked the Devs as a deadline loser......

Said they made great pickups in Kozlov and Hrdina

But not adding at the very least a serviceable defenseman will cost them, said Stevens coming back for the 1st round is not as likely as everyone thinks......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:04 PM

There is still no timetable for a Stevens return, the team tells us next to nothing about him and yet you all seem to think hell be back in a week.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:05 PM

Come On You People Can See How Upset I am, I was really expecting a dman.....It sort of feels like Im a kid waking up on Christmas and getting nothing
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:07 PM

I dont have any inside info on Stevens, all I know is that when Stevens was asked about regular season play, he skirted the question and talked about how important it is to rest for a playoff series rather than a late season game with no implication......When he was asked about 1st round playoff series, he was noncommittal and just said I should be able to play in "a" playoff series......
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:18 PM

Come On You People Can See How Upset I am, I was really expecting a dman.....It sort of feels like Im a kid waking up on Christmas and getting nothing

I remember once, when I was 13. I asked my parents for my own TV set. They always had a way of putting little notes, like "find your gift in the spare room closet", so I opened every gift carefully. Meticulously. Checking in every crevase looking for the note. After all the presents were opened and I was standing amongs a pile of new clothes, games, new baseball glove, remote control R2-D2.... I started kicking stuff and told my parents that I hated them. I took all my gifts and threw them in the kitchen garbage can.

Santa brought me a big forward and centre that can win a few face-offs. I'm not complaining that he didn't bring me a TV set.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:18 PM

Well, another trade just came in..

JORDAN KRESTANOVICH to MINNESOTA
CHRIS BALA to COLORADO
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:21 PM

Well, another trade just came in..

JORDAN KRESTANOVICH to MINNESOTA
CHRIS BALA to COLORADO

so is there still hope?
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:24 PM

No.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:25 PM

so is there still hope?

:rolleyes:

I give up. I really really do. Type until you're red in the fingers and all you accomplish is wasting time off your life. I'm gonna go read a book....
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:27 PM

coldply, the odds were against us no matter who Lou added this year. That's been my point all along, I'm not saying this team is going to go to the Stanley Cup Finals. Witt, Carney, etc., they would not have helped as much as you think. Nor were they probably ever available. Lou wasn't going for the Gonchar solution, so we're left with depth defensemen. He should have gotten one. But that won't make a huge difference, IMO.

No matter who they added, they wouldn't be the favorite.

Repeating is very difficult. Lou has put us in a good position to repeat, by adding two forwards. He has seen that to play against Toronto or Philadelphia, we need a big center, and a center who can win faceoffs.. He got that. Toronto and Philadelphia have undergone quite a few changes, and it's unclear how those will work out. Lou made the safe move again, he didn't mess with chemistry, and he addressed needs. That's all he could have done. It's nice to say your team is the favorite when they add a bunch of players at the deadline, but look at the 99 Wings, 03 Leafs, or any Philadelphia team. It doesn't always work out.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:30 PM

Don, you do understand why people are worried right? This team has looked bad againat good teams since Stevens left and even when he comes back who is to say he will be close to the Scott Stevens we know and love and need to be successful? There are a lot more question marks surrounding this team than in years past. Combine that with the upgrades of the other contending teams and you have worry.

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:34 PM

so is there still hope?

:rolleyes:

I give up. I really really do. Type until you're red in the fingers and all you accomplish is wasting time off your life. I'm gonna go read a book....

ha ha actually i have been more productive then you... reading a book myself the past 3 hours. Thucydides is my choice, whats yours?
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 05:44 PM

Hah. Thucydides is great reading for trade deadline time. But enough about that, I can drone on for hours about that stuff.

By the way, those of you hoping for another deal, I see it as VERY unlikely. The deals trickling through now are the less important deals, and were probably processed last by the league.
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Posted 09 March 2004 - 06:01 PM

Don, you do understand why people are worried right? This team has looked bad againat good teams since Stevens left and even when he comes back who is to say he will be close to the Scott Stevens we know and love and need to be successful? There are a lot more question marks surrounding this team than in years past. Combine that with the upgrades of the other contending teams and you have worry.

Pete: *sigh* Maybe it's a matter of 8 years of ranting and raving on mailing lists and now web-boards about what Lou has or has not done, what the coach has or has not done, what a player has or has not done has worn on this old vet. I'm more willing to go with the flow. No more fists in the wall. No more pulling out of the hair (mostly because it was all pulled out in previous deadlines).

Never again do I "worry" about the Devils. I'm going to enjoy whatever Lou serves up. No more tilting at windmills. No more raising Cain.

Do I know that we've had trouble against +500 teams? I think it was I that documented that last week.... Do I know that we've had trouble keeping the puck out of own net? Absolutely.

Maybe I'm just grateful for R2-D2 and the new clothes. And the fact that we still have a chance, as limited as some people feel it is due to the above reasons, to compete. I'm gonna enjoy my hockey and cheer on the Devils the best I can without getting all worked up that Lou didn't get me a TV set.
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