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#1061 Jas0nMacIsaac

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 12:10 PM

Montreal lost Hamrlik and Wisniewski and added Cole. Don't exactly see how they improved.

Also LOL at Philly improving.


Montreal, with an average season from Price, may drop to 9 or 10 in the conference. I just don't see many of their forwards getting any better.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 12:12 PM

Cogs to Ducks for a 2nd in 2013...good deal for both teams imo

Sucks that he never panned out for EDM though
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 01:15 PM

Montreal, with an average season from Price, may drop to 9 or 10 in the conference. I just don't see many of their forwards getting any better.


this i don't think either, i think price is very good and i think pacioretty, eller, and subban can definitely get better. i mean, they could drop, certainly, but i don't think they will. we'll see - someone's got to clear out for NJ.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 01:18 PM

this i don't think either, i think price is very good and i think pacioretty, eller, and subban can definitely get better. i mean, they could drop, certainly, but i don't think they will. we'll see - someone's got to clear out for NJ.

I think a lot of folks around here are expecting some sort of continuation of post-Jan 2011 consistent play (plus Parise) for NJ (and are basing predictions on the memory of that streak)....

..... I also think a lot of folks are going to be disappointed when that doesn't happen.

Not saying they will be bad - but with a new coach it will take time for them to find themselves again.

Edited by DevilinLA, 12 July 2011 - 01:19 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 01:38 PM

I think a lot of folks around here are expecting some sort of continuation of post-Jan 2011 consistent play (plus Parise) for NJ (and are basing predictions on the memory of that streak)....

..... I also think a lot of folks are going to be disappointed when that doesn't happen.

Not saying they will be bad - but with a new coach it will take time for them to find themselves again.


Agreed. We kind of popped and fizzled towards the end of of the season.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 02:04 PM

Also LOL at Philly improving.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 03:03 PM

You will learn.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 03:09 PM

I think a lot of folks around here are expecting some sort of continuation of post-Jan 2011 consistent play (plus Parise) for NJ (and are basing predictions on the memory of that streak)....

..... I also think a lot of folks are going to be disappointed when that doesn't happen.

Not saying they will be bad - but with a new coach it will take time for them to find themselves again.


I don't really think so. Even if the new coach is Therrien, I expect the Devils to roll right out of the gate. Did it take the team a long time to find themselves under Julien, Sutter, and Lemaire? No.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 03:54 PM

I think a lot of folks around here are expecting some sort of continuation of post-Jan 2011 consistent play (plus Parise) for NJ (and are basing predictions on the memory of that streak)....

..... I also think a lot of folks are going to be disappointed when that doesn't happen.

Not saying they will be bad - but with a new coach it will take time for them to find themselves again.


We don't know if it's going to be a 'new' coach yet :lol:

But I think it's quite reasonable to expect that the first half last year under MacLean and with a poisoned room was the abberation and that the Devils should get back to the 100-point regular season level this year since they were at that level every year the previous decade and played above that level in the second half last year.

Especially when you factor in kids like Josefson, Tedenby, Palmeri, Fayne and Taormina having more experience under their belts and yes a healthy Zach makes a difference, we may get two players back next year since Zajac was non-existent offensively without him last year too :P

I don't really think so. Even if the new coach is Therrien, I expect the Devils to roll right out of the gate. Did it take the team a long time to find themselves under Julien, Sutter, and Lemaire? No.


Well they were 3-6-1 under Sutter but that was mostly the marathon road trip. They are quite used to adjusting to new coaches on the fly.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 12 July 2011 - 04:03 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 04:14 PM

I think a lot of folks around here are expecting some sort of continuation of post-Jan 2011 consistent play (plus Parise) for NJ (and are basing predictions on the memory of that streak)....

..... I also think a lot of folks are going to be disappointed when that doesn't happen.

Not saying they will be bad - but with a new coach it will take time for them to find themselves again.

This is so true.


As for Philly not improving, they did lose Richards and Carter but Briere, Giroux, Jagr, VR, Pronger, Lilja, Bryz, etc. is still a extremeley strong core, maybe not as 'star' defined but without a doubt a threat.


For fun lets look at the Devils past 4 trades(as I remember)...


NJ:David Steckel, 2nd round pick
Washington: Jason Arnott

NJ:2nd rounder
Dallas:Jamie Langenbrunner

NJ:Jason Arnott
Nashville:2nd round pick, Matt Halichuk

NJ:Anssi Salmela, Ilya Kovalchuk
Winnipeg:1st rounder, Patrice Cormier, Johnny Oduya, Nicklas Bergfors


Currently In:Steckel, Salmela, Kovalchuk,

Out:Arnott, Langenbrunner, Cormier, Oduya, Bergfors, Halichuk, 1st rounder, 2nd rounder



Looking back Lou has made major shakeups along with signing Moose, Kovy, Tallinder, Volchenkov but we still don't look majorly improved from past playoff exits. I hope the right coach and the return of Parise can restore some stability from way back when.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 07:16 PM

Mayday, you're ignoring these additions:

Tedenby, Josefson, Palmieri, Fayne, Taormina

edit: also Volchenkhov, Tallinder

all of which will certainly have an impact next season. If Josefson really starts to come along, it could give the Devils 3 scoring lines which has been a huge problem for the Devils in the playoffs since the lockout IMO.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 07:35 PM

Mayday, you're ignoring these additions:

Tedenby, Josefson, Palmieri, Fayne, Taormina

edit: also Volchenkhov, Tallinder

all of which will certainly have an impact next season. If Josefson really starts to come along, it could give the Devils 3 scoring lines which has been a huge problem for the Devils in the regular season and playoffs since the lockout IMO.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 08:32 PM

Cheechoo is now a Blue as well. 1 year 2-way contract

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:20 PM

Cheechoo is now a Blue as well. 1 year 2-way contract


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Once a 56 goal scorer. Still suprising
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:23 PM

Cheechoo is now a Blue as well. 1 year 2-way contract


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:05 PM

Low risk, High Reward for the blues.


More like low risk, no reward. The guy is done. He's gotten worse and worse every season since his magical year. I doubt he'll play in the NHL.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:04 AM

Once a 56 goal scorer. Still suprising


Not really he put those numbers up in the year where everyone was awesome. 2005-06 the same year when Gionta got 48 goals.

It was the year where the league decided that you couldn't touch anyone else or it was a penalty.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:44 AM

this i don't think either, i think price is very good and i think pacioretty, eller, and subban can definitely get better. i mean, they could drop, certainly, but i don't think they will. we'll see - someone's got to clear out for NJ.


Goaltending varies from year to year. Price has a better shot at being worse then being the same or better then last year. Pacioretty is coming back from a scary injury, we really don't know where his confidence will be at. Subban will be better. Add that up with an aging forward crew and you probably get a worse season. Then again, I am guessing in what ifs just as you are.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 07:57 AM

Goaltending varies from year to year. Price has a better shot at being worse then being the same or better then last year. Pacioretty is coming back from a scary injury, we really don't know where his confidence will be at. Subban will be better. Add that up with an aging forward crew and you probably get a worse season. Then again, I am guessing in what ifs just as you are.


aging forward crew? gomez and gionta are the only major players over 30. well, and cole, but he's an addition. gomez is going to be better, too. yeah, i wouldn't bet against montreal this year, i don't think. i think they have a good shot at unseating boston and beating out buffalo.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:21 AM

aging forward crew? gomez and gionta are the only major players over 30. well, and cole, but he's an addition. gomez is going to be better, too. yeah, i wouldn't bet against montreal this year, i don't think. i think they have a good shot at unseating boston and beating out buffalo.

huh? Is Cammalleri gonna score 60 goals or something? I'm just not seeing them being able to score. Markov will help (if healthy) and Cole is a decent addition, but I think they will be a "score by committee" type of team. Plus as mentioned before, no way Price repeats last years performance
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