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#241 njdevsftw

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:07 PM

Happy to see Rolston go, although only because of his salary. If he had a 2,5M salary I'd happily see him stay.

Let's hope Parise is willing to sign long term so we can get a moderate cap hit. Something like Kovys or the recent Richards deal in NY.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:11 PM

claiming that we lose offense with this trade is laughable. i expect more just from kovy and tedenby alone. and then you add a full season(fingers crossed) with parise. the offense will be there.

i think this team will be dangerous this season. i believe a lot of our early season problems last season were due to mclean, as evidenced by the turnaround once lemaire came on board. and i read that deboer plays a similar style to sutter, which i think will benefit our forwards. i believe parise had his best season productivly under sutter.

sure, if we start out slow there will be people jumping off bridges, but so far i like the team we will be icing. i don't know what kind of monumental changes we could have made to make us a "stanley cup contender".
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:14 PM

I was so excited at work today, looked on the front page of TSN and saw the news and my boss probably raised his eyebrows as he was looking by...so glad! As far as I'm concerned, if we had had to buy out Rolston, it would've been 500k more cap hit than this is, and we get a return of a player about at Rolston's level. I've been waiting for this trade for a while.

After reading this thread for a bit I'm in agreement with people that think we're in year 3 of a "retooling" phase. I think we don't really have such a shot at a cup, but we definitely will make the playoffs, and I think we could make it through a round or so. Hopefully the team can develop chemistry under a new coach, a new captain (Zach :pray:) and with the loss of a few older players (Lags, Arnott, Rolston). If we develop Tedenby, Josefson, Taormina, Fayne, Larsson, etc, who all seem to be NHL-ready players at this point, not just guys with "potential" (like Merrill and co.), we can replace the old guard and after Moose is done after this season, we'll be in good shape for the future. I'm very glad we have Greene wrapped up, along with Volchenkov and Tallinder, and I'm looking forward to the team in the future.

Very funny comment on TSN by a Canucks fan, thought this would be a great trade for both teams:
NJ gets: Schneider, Ballard, high pick (1st or 2nd)
VAN gets: Parise, low pick
Thought it was hilarious. Either Parise is extremely undervalued in the league or the Canucks are high on their backups. Just imagine subbing Ovechkin/Crosby/Stamkos into that deal...not even close.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:31 PM

claiming that we lose offense with this trade is laughable. i expect more just from kovy and tedenby alone. and then you add a full season(fingers crossed) with parise. the offense will be there.


Kovy and Tedenby weren't in the trade. I think the Devils did lose offense in the deal, it didn't make it a bad trade though.

hunter was a solid player before injuries, i don't exactly see his spot on this team, kinda hoping he gets bought out. although it does look like he was kind of a territorial champ for the islanders.


I'm not sure anyone, Isles or Devils, knows what to expect from Hunter. Coming off the MCL, if he copes with it well and his rehab made his knees feel even better than he could be a helpful lower line guy. If his knees are done and he skates even worse than before then he can't be in the NHL. I think it's worth the gamble for the Devils to find out in camp rather than buy him out this season.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:34 PM

I'm not sure anyone, Isles or Devils, knows what to expect from Hunter. Coming off the MCL, if he copes with it well and his rehab made his knees feel even better than he could be a helpful lower line guy. If his knees are done and he skates even worse than before then he can't be in the NHL. I think it's worth the gamble for the Devils to find out in camp rather than buy him out this season.


Exactly. If he's healthy and hasn't lost much, the guy is a very competent player who can play the PK and put up a good 30-40+ points, which is nothing to laugh at. I would love to have that as part of our 3rd line.

Edited by Amberite, 28 July 2011 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 06:10 PM

that's 'if healthy', again. if clarkson is healthy we could expect that on the 3rd line, also.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 06:21 PM

209 GP, 49 G, 54 A, 103 PTS, -2. The guy clearly never performed up to what we were all hoping for...some of it was bad luck, but I put a lot of his lack of performance on HIM. I'm glad he's gonzo.

As for the return, we all know Rolston wasn't going to fetch much in a return...it was all about getting him out of here and his money off the books, getting some flexibility, etc...so Hunter is a "whatever" for me. Like others have noted, training camp will go a long way towards establishing what future Hunter might have here, if he has one at all...sounds like Lou doesn't have any expectations one way or another.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 06:25 PM

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:03 PM

Very funny comment on TSN by a Canucks fan, thought this would be a great trade for both teams:
NJ gets: Schneider, Ballard, high pick (1st or 2nd)
VAN gets: Parise, low pick
Thought it was hilarious. Either Parise is extremely undervalued in the league or the Canucks are high on their backups. Just imagine subbing Ovechkin/Crosby/Stamkos into that deal...not even close.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:03 PM

Outside of the money, I saw no problem with Rolston for one last year, I dunno if Trent Hunter is a viable piece of anything other than sh!t (hes a pylon) but I do like we have a little cap room. I will have no criticism if its part of the larger plan and allows us to lock Zach up long term.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:06 PM

Kovy and Tedenby weren't in the trade. I think the Devils did lose offense in the deal, it didn't make it a bad trade though.


while the wording i used was poor, the point was the offense we lose with rolston will be made up by the other players on the team. winky's offense won't be missed. neither will his cap hit.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:11 PM

http://www.inlouwetr...il-trent-hunter

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 08:26 PM

Yea, we were great with Parise last year (iajmf). Listen we definitely lack depth and a star d-man as of right now, you can admit that or divert and continue to talk about how good our top forward line is. Again, I see us making the playoffs as a 6-8 seed. Cup contenders I don't see us as unless was add someone else.



And the cap space (depending on what Zach signs for) will be useful in a deadline deal when more questions will be answered(injuries, larsson, etc). I liked rolston, but he is replaceable. Which young player steps up is a valid question/concern though.



If Hunter out performs rolston this year, then i actually feel sorry for the islanders. this deal had almost nothing to do with Trent Hunter and everything to do with Rolston. When you say "outside of a salary dump" it essentially makes the argument pointless. I could say, "besides what happens on the ice", this deal doesn't favor the isles.


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As for Hunter, maybe getting off the Island will do him good. If he becomes a sligthly above average 4th line/ pk / hit anything that moves(and you can catch up to) guy I'd be happy. Anything else is pure gravy. I also feel this is a make or break year for Clarkson.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:10 PM

First the Dolphins get Reggie Bush, and now we dump Rolston. Good day for me in the sports department so far. Now all I need is for the Fins to finish the Kyle Orton trade, Nnamdi Asoughma to snub the Jets, and for Parise to sign long-term and we're in business. :P


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Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:38 PM

I think hunter can have a good year, no longer playing w fishsticks is a sign of that. He's also been plagued w injuries last two yrs. When he's on his game he is very effective
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:39 PM

Glad to see I'm not the only dolphins fan on here



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Posted 28 July 2011 - 10:29 PM

As far as I'm concerned, if we had had to buy out Rolston, it would've been 500k more cap hit than this is, and we get a return of a player about at Rolston's level.


I'm pretty certain Rolston could not be bought out without having his full salary count against the cap.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 10:52 PM

I think hunter can have a good year, no longer playing w fishsticks is a sign of that. He's also been plagued w injuries last two yrs. When he's on his game he is very effective

Same with Rolston, got injured and never found his game again really.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 11:33 PM

Same with Rolston, got injured and never found his game again really.


Rolston will turn 39 this season. Even with being on the top 2 lines on the island, I think 40 points is his top end production.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 11:49 PM

Well seriously if hunter is always injured its even better lol if he goes on ltir, same with salvadore thats an extra 5m + wtv cap space left that we have with parise signed...id guess about a milliom?

Well if were not contenders now.... Im pretty sure that with 6-7 millions at the deadline we could get real good additions or ufa that we could try to resign
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