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#101 Mayday

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:29 PM

there's a slim chance white will be.


I could see White being claimed. Although he plays only a defensive game he is a veteran and doesn't let crap go on to his teammates. Even at 3M, maybe.

Also one of our only guys who stands up for his teammates and doesn't take sh!t is leaving...
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:30 PM

I don't get the idea that Lou is dropping White supposedly to bring up younger talent. Salvador is, according to Lou, possibly going to be in the lineup and he's older than White and has potential long-term concussion related issues. If anything, Lou should buy out Salvador too if the goal is to get younger.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:31 PM

Posted Today, 01:27 PM
1. Langs
2. Arnott
3. Rolston
4. White
5. ______

Whos next on the whipping post?

Andy Greene

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:33 PM

1. Langs
2. Arnott
3. Rolston
4. White
5. ______

Whos next on the whipping post?

I don't like gutting the veteran part of the team but the truth is all of these primes are gone. Last year of Langs, Arnott, Rolston, White, and Elias who put up a great season or atleast played up to their contract? Langenbrunner didn't seem like a leader, Arnott just didn't set in, Rolston was overpaid and didn't produce up to standards. White and Elias were the only positive players I saw out of that group. Arnott was OK and Rolston played better in the 2nd half.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:34 PM

To add to my previous post, doesn't Salvador make almost as much as White, but we're buying out White due to budget and make room for younger players? Doesn't pass the smell test to me.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:35 PM

1. Langs
2. Arnott
3. Rolston
4. White
5. ______

Whos next on the whipping post?


Kovalchuk, if he doesn't have 3 goals by October 9th
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:35 PM

I don't get the idea that Lou is dropping White supposedly to bring up younger talent. Salvador is, according to Lou, possibly going to be in the lineup and he's older than White and has potential long-term concussion related issues. If anything, Lou should buy out Salvador too if the goal is to get younger.

change the word "too" to "instead" and I agree 300%
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:36 PM

I don't like waiving White. The Devils don't seem to need the cap space and I don't think the younger players can fill that spot as well as White does.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:36 PM

1. Langs
2. Arnott
3. Rolston
4. White
5. ______

Whos next on the whipping post?


Well it depends on who's whipping post.

Mine was Langs, before that Madden ... Rolston and White I've never been thrilled with - and my expectations never met what people said they brought to the table even. Arnott redux never bugged me either way. He didn't do what I'd hoped but he never did to start with so :noclue: no big deal.

next up on mine: Salvadore. The man chokes chokes CHOKES in playoffs.... what the heck is he doing here?

so... if he actually never sees action... I'll have to decide :evil:

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:36 PM

white makes no sense at this time unless something else is coming, but i can't imagine what that could be.

there's no reason that he needed to be jettisoned at this time. he was a good defenseman last year.

Lou better damn well have a trade up his sleeve for an upgrade, or this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, financially or otherwise.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:36 PM

Why White ??? The only guy I always considered as a sure value on our Defense corp
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:37 PM

To add to my previous post, doesn't Salvador make almost as much as White, but we're buying out White due to budget and make room for younger players? Doesn't pass the smell test to me.

Sal is 2.9, Whitey's 3. So yup.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:39 PM

Is Urbom a potential White replacement? Just curious on people's thoughts.. Lou and the staff seem to really like Urbom, and they did bring him up the last game of the season against Boston (he scored a goal too, although Boston was clearly saving themselves for the Cup Finals)
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:40 PM

Ok and I've read Salvador about 5 times in this thread already. Salvador is not replacing White. No one knows if the guy can even fvcking play. So can we stop with that idiotic suggestion?
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:41 PM

Is Urbom a potential White replacement? Just curious on people's thoughts.. Lou and the staff seem to really like Urbom, and they did bring him up the last game of the season against Boston (he scored a goal too, although Boston was clearly saving themselves for the Cup Finals)

Assuming Salvador is going to be healthy, we have:

Salvador
Tallinder
Volchenkov
Greene
Larsson
Taormina
Fayne
Fraser

probably all ahead of Urbom on the pecking order for next year
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:42 PM

Sorry, but I'm going to agree with the "financial-woes" theorists on this issue. This saves the club $2.33 million in "cash" by paying the buyouts rather than the full salaries. The cap was not an issue if these guys stuck around, and Lou mentioned it was a "budget decision."

Now we have lingering cap hits for buyouts for the next four years ($1.66 mil of dead money in 12-13, another $667k in 13-14 and 14-15).
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:42 PM

for all the dull summers we've spent as devils fans .. this one sure has been interesting ...
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:43 PM

Ok and I've read Salvador about 5 times in this thread already. Salvador is not replacing White. No one knows if the guy can even fvcking play. So can we stop with that idiotic suggestion?


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Lamoriello mentioned the team's young defensemen and possible return of Bryce Salvador.


Given that Lou keeps talking about him I think it's worth discussing.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:43 PM

Sal is 2.9, Whitey's 3. So yup.


And if Salvador goes on IR with another concussion and misses the season or retires, insurance will most likely pick up most of the tab on his salary. Another "budget consideration."
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:47 PM

if bryce salvador retires, 'retirement' will take care of his salary.

white is reaching that age where we would expect him to decline, and i think his days of getting top 4 ice time for this team were over, but still - i don't see how they couldn't find a trade for him where they'd get a guy making 1.5 to 2.5M and then buy him out.
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