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#141 aylbert

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:14 PM

I draft and pickup talent quite well... but have lost on my trades quite badly.


Zetterberg/Hossa ---> received Perry/Callahan - I really wanted Perry, but tossing in Hossa was a mistake

Elias/Fippula/Brodeur ---> Staal/Garon - I was trying to sell high, buy low... Elias has remained great this year, and Fippula is doing well too... Staal while better than he was when I got him, has not recovered to be his old self... and Brodeur, /shrug... I wouldn't be playing him anyways.

Henrique/Callahan --> Stastny ... I really wanted a center. Stastny was doing good, but an injury slowed him down. And yea, Henrique seems like the real deal... I got hosed and it was my own offer. My saving grace, it was a roster move to free up a healthy player off IR... but should have kept Henrique.


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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:57 AM

Soooo... with the above statement.... anyone interested in Jonathan Quick? :D
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:31 PM

I draft and pickup talent quite well... but have lost on my trades quite badly.


Zetterberg/Hossa ---> received Perry/Callahan - I really wanted Perry, but tossing in Hossa was a mistake

Elias/Fippula/Brodeur ---> Staal/Garon - I was trying to sell high, buy low... Elias has remained great this year, and Fippula is doing well too... Staal while better than he was when I got him, has not recovered to be his old self... and Brodeur, /shrug... I wouldn't be playing him anyways.

Henrique/Callahan --> Stastny ... I really wanted a center. Stastny was doing good, but an injury slowed him down. And yea, Henrique seems like the real deal... I got hosed and it was my own offer. My saving grace, it was a roster move to free up a healthy player off IR... but should have kept Henrique.



Funny because i probably would have done the deal w/out Henrique!!!
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 06:30 AM

Funny because i probably would have done the deal w/out Henrique!!!


Yea... I had thrown Henrique in to clear roster space as someone was coming off IR... but clearly, I wish I didn't trade him now.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:09 PM

I'm offering up Hiller for anyone that wants him now that he and the Ducks are on a crazy run to the playoffs. Don't want a goalie back but need defensive help in return since my D this side of Enstrom blows.

Too bad most of the teams that need goalies are the dead teams :P

Edited by NJDevs4978, 16 February 2012 - 04:11 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:26 PM

I'm offering up Hiller for anyone that wants him now that he and the Ducks are on a crazy run to the playoffs. Don't want a goalie back but need defensive help in return since my D this side of Enstrom blows.

Too bad most of the teams that need goalies are the dead teams :P


I have too many goalies too... I remember in years past not being able to find an even "I play once a month" backup.
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#147 aylbert

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:45 PM

Just bringing this thread back... it aged out.
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#148 NJDevs4978

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 06:14 PM

Reviving this thread to prematurely congratulate aylbert on winning this year's league (don't think it's too soon to call it with a 30-point lead and a week left lol). He could win a league and cup double, like in the soccer leagues if he wins the other league's playoff too.

Enjoy your dominance while it lasts buddy, next year you'll have competition because there'll be no computer snafus on my end next draft...or the thing's getting trashed :P At least my consolation is being in the final of my 'other' league, so it wasn't a total waste this year despite my wasteland team here.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:44 PM

Enjoy your dominance while it lasts buddy, next year you'll have competition because there'll be no computer snafus on my end next draft...or the thing's getting trashed :P At least my consolation is being in the final of my 'other' league, so it wasn't a total waste this year despite my wasteland team here.


I still think you're hiding behind a snafu in the 5th round :) Other than that, nothing seems that far out of line. Also, some of my key starters were from you:

E Staal (who rebounded nicely in our trade--- but you also got 3 starters in Elias, Filppula and Brodeur).
Ennis - Who has been great since his return.
Jokinen - who's been sucking a bit in the stretch, but was great for me in the middle of the season

If I do win this season... Team MVP will either be Stamkos or Quick... I'm leaning toward Quick. But overall, besides Stamkos and Staal, my team seems to be well rounded players who get it done on the PP as well.

I'm just most happy to follow up last seasons 2nd place with a 1st this year. I sucked it up for a while, not paying attention to the faceoffs, hit/blocks, etc categories.
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#150 NJDevs4978

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:32 PM

That whole picking Hiller over Brodeur off my phone thing wasn't even my main issue (especially since their numbers wound up being similar anyway), heck if I was on a computer after the first round I would have picked Thomas in the 2nd. It was just having almost the 'whole' draft being autopicked aside from Ovechkin until I finally got in later then was forced to pick guys like Liles and other scraps late. Hedberg as my last pick was probably my best one lol.

And no, preranking doesn't help in my mind - aside from weeding out injuries that haven't been accounted for in the Yahoo rankings - since you're drafting for value and trends as much as anything. Having a defenseman ranked above a center isn't going to help if you realize the center's better value at that point in the draft or if you've picked two defensemen already, and ranking different positions against each other is almost pointless anyway.

It was just a season where just about anything that could go wrong did for me, I was due one of them. Even players I was autodrafted and liked had poor years. I'm glad you won the league in spite of our trade though, I would have felt bad about you losing based off overpaying me Elias, Marty and Filpulla for Staal lol.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:49 PM

It was just a season where just about anything that could go wrong did for me, I was due one of them. Even players I was autodrafted and liked had poor years. I'm glad you won the league in spite of our trade though, I would have felt bad about you losing based off overpaying me Elias, Marty and Filpulla for Staal lol.

To be honest, it's a trade I would still do.

Marty was going to ride bench all year for me as insurance for Quick.
Fipulla was useless to me as a center... when he got that wing tag, he became more valuable.
So before the tag change, the only "starter" I was trading was Elias for Staal.

I was upset to learn I could have gotten Claude Giroux for the same price... but Staal turned out to be just fine for me :)

Trading for Stastny was a waste... the trade I'm the most iffy about was trading Zetterberg and Hossa for Perry / Callahan. Obviously, Hossa had a great year.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

Albert Congrats, I was in it for awhile, but my scoring dried up early...
I learned alot from this years league.. of course i say that every years and then make the same mistake in the draft anyway...

That being said, my son and I are likely to finish 3 & 4, so thats pretty impressive. Maybe next year 1 & 2....
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

Only 5 trades all year, that is weak!!

I was invovled in 3 and Albert was involved in 3, what happened to everyone else??
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:16 PM

Albert Congrats, I was in it for awhile, but my scoring dried up early...
I learned alot from this years league.. of course i say that every years and then make the same mistake in the draft anyway...

That being said, my son and I are likely to finish 3 & 4, so thats pretty impressive. Maybe next year 1 & 2....

Thanks.... a Redrum family dynasty? I better start my draft kit now.
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

I'm not sure about having any of the 'marginal' offensive categories for next year (PIM's, Hits, Blocks) but would rather have something else that's a non-offensive category besides faceoff wins. Especially since getting rid of all of those will exaggerate a goalie's importance once again.

Maybe I should just do away with PIM's and keep the other two. The other two are subjective, but at least they're positive stats. There aren't enough guys with good PIM's that are rosterable who you can really justify anymore at this point, and you need that less as a wild card if you keep hits and blocks.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:05 AM

I'm not sure about having any of the 'marginal' offensive categories for next year (PIM's, Hits, Blocks) but would rather have something else that's a non-offensive category besides faceoff wins. Especially since getting rid of all of those will exaggerate a goalie's importance once again.

Maybe I should just do away with PIM's and keep the other two. The other two are subjective, but at least they're positive stats. There aren't enough guys with good PIM's that are rosterable who you can really justify anymore at this point, and you need that less as a wild card if you keep hits and blocks.


I still like PIMs as a fantasy stat... it adds that hard nosed asset to your stats... higher PIMs typically mean more fighting, roughing, etc. Rewarding David Clarksons...
Sure you can try to pad the PIM with Cam Janssen's (when he plays)... but you'd be giving up valuable scoring opportunities to do so.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:25 AM

Yeah but of players with 100+ PIM's this year, how many of them are really rosterable, eight or nine maybe? And a lot of them would be useful even without PIM's, it just exaggerates their value while it penalizes a guy like Henrique who took less than 10 PIM's (including one fighting major) all season.

Conversely, making PIM's a negative value would give the Clarksons and Lucic's a negative value, even Corey Perry so that's not happening. So I'd almost rather take it out once and for all and avoid both extremes :P
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:49 AM

Yeah but of players with 100+ PIM's this year, how many of them are really rosterable, eight or nine maybe? And a lot of them would be useful even without PIM's, it just exaggerates their value while it penalizes a guy like Henrique who took less than 10 PIM's (including one fighting major) all season.

Conversely, making PIM's a negative value would give the Clarksons and Lucic's a negative value, even Corey Perry so that's not happening. So I'd almost rather take it out once and for all and avoid both extremes :P


But I'd rather have a team full of Clarkson or Lucic on my team than of Henrique's. When you play hard nosed, you are going to get PIMs... So really it accurately gives more value to them than what a "softer" player with the same points has... there are only a handful of players like this (hard nosed with offensive skill), much like you only have a few elite snipers, etc.

If you want to dominate PIMs, load it with a bunch of goons with no hockey skill... good for you. You just gave up on all the other offensive stats though. It's a balancing game; and I don't see why that part needs to be "simplified", for lack of a better term. Much like how you need to consider +/- when taking on a high scorer with poor defense. Sure, he scored 70 pts, but he posted a -20. That's going to help/hurt you.






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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:01 AM

I am on the side of eliminating PIMs, to me its a negative stat for most players, stupid penalties lead to PP goals, and while i do agree that there are a few ( maybe 10) players that PIMS is a result of true hard work ( clarkson) its not enough to sway me, I say ditch the PIMs, and although i was orginally against hits and blocks I actually appreciate them now ans think they should stay.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:33 AM

I am on the side of eliminating PIMs, to me its a negative stat for most players, stupid penalties lead to PP goals, and while i do agree that there are a few ( maybe 10) players that PIMS is a result of true hard work ( clarkson) its not enough to sway me, I say ditch the PIMs, and although i was orginally against hits and blocks I actually appreciate them now ans think they should stay.

I agree completely that PIMs typically are negative when they happen... but how is the player playing that led to that point? Was he being chipper, fighting for a puck? Was he being lazy... Is he a goon?



There really is no benefit gooning up all season, as you will be hurting your team in the other categories. Someone will always put a Rinaldo, Boulton on their roster to get some PIMs, but they won't win the season with those moves... they are more likely to lose it making those moves.

Blocks are a defensive stat... Brooks Laich had the most blocks for a forward this season, 92, which ranked him 110th.
I guess hits will cover the toughness factor... but when I compare Clarkson (169 ) to Henrique (83)... there's a contrast, but not nearly as starkly as PIMs Clarkson- 138 Henrique- 7.
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