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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:43 AM

Where are you reading that Korolev and Karpovtsev were on the plane? I do not see that referenced anyplace.


they were on the coaching staff
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:44 AM

I think he declined one or didn't want to consider and had already had his heart set on Russia by the end of last season.


He declined because it was a two-way and he wanted one-way. We retained his rights though as he signed a qualifier.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:45 AM

they were on the coaching staff



That might be so, but I do not see them listed anyplace that they were confirmed on the plane.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:45 AM

Absolutely terrible loss of life. Hockey players or not, it's such an unnecessary and tragic event when you know that steps could have been taken to prevent this.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:45 AM

Obviously any human life lost is tragic, but reading names of players I recognize is really making this sink in and making me feel sick to my stomach.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:48 AM

Where are you reading that Korolev and Karpovtsev were on the plane? I do not see that referenced anyplace.


It hasnt been confirmed that they were on that flight just yet.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:49 AM

This is so sad, really makes me sick to my stomach. :(

I work with a few Russian guys and they all say that Russian airlines in general have no money to buy or maintain new planes and are all using Soviet-era planes that are 30-40 years old and barely have maintenance done on them. It's been said before in this thread, but they all tell me that if you have to fly in Russia, do it on an on airline that is not Russian-based.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:52 AM

This is so sad, really makes me sick to my stomach. :(

I work with a few Russian guys and they all say that Russian airlines in general have no money to buy or maintain new planes and are all using Soviet-era planes that are 30-40 years old and barely have maintenance done on them. It's been said before in this thread, but they all tell me that if you have to fly in Russia, do it on an on airline that is not Russian-based.


The plane was reportedly built in 93 and belonged to a small Yak Service company.

There were reports that a member of the flight crew had survived. Can anyone find info on whether or not this is still true?
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:58 AM

This is so sad, really makes me sick to my stomach. :(

I work with a few Russian guys and they all say that Russian airlines in general have no money to buy or maintain new planes and are all using Soviet-era planes that are 30-40 years old and barely have maintenance done on them. It's been said before in this thread, but they all tell me that if you have to fly in Russia, do it on an on airline that is not Russian-based.


Agreed. But Russian aircraft are very rugged and built to operate in a pretty rough climate. This aircraft wasn't too old either...according to airframes.org, RA-42434 was built in 1993.

Edited by mmajeski06, 07 September 2011 - 11:02 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:58 AM

not trying to be funny but with players dying directly on the bench with no medical staff around, teams dying in sh!tty airplanes maybe a little bit less players would choose to cross oversea for a little more $$$ than in the NHL.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:00 AM

The plane was reportedly built in 93 and belonged to a small Yak Service company.

There were reports that a member of the flight crew had survived. Can anyone find info on whether or not this is still true?


This is from the NHL.com article... looks like 1980

According to the reports on the crash, the plane, a Yakovlev Yak-42 passenger jet, went down and caught fire shortly immediately after taking to the air, crashing less than 2 kilometers from the airport.

The short- and medium-range Yak-42 has been in service since 1980. It was en route to Minsk, Belarus for a Thursday night game against Dynamo Minsk, Lokomotiv's opener to the 2011-12 KHL season.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:00 AM

Galimov is dead :(
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:01 AM

Do the Devils still use that old 727?


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:01 AM

Agreed. Russian aircraft are very rugged and built to operate in a pretty rough climate. This aircraft wasn't too old though...according to airframes.org, RA-42434 was built in 1993.


It's still almost 20 years old and if proper maintenance is not performed, forget it.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:01 AM

not trying to be funny but with players dying directly on the bench with no medical staff around, teams dying in sh!tty airplanes maybe a little bit less players would choose to cross oversea for a little more $$$ than in the NHL.

most of those players probably weren't nhl caliber
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:02 AM

not trying to be funny but with players dying directly on the bench with no medical staff around, teams dying in sh!tty airplanes maybe a little bit less players would choose to cross oversea for a little more $$$ than in the NHL.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:02 AM

TG just confirmed Josef Vasicek as being onboard the plane.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:03 AM

This from an aviation news site..."Russian news printed a witness report of the ATCO working the flight - he states that the airplane seemed to have power problems on ground already, accelerating very slowly and not leaving the ground until after the end of (3000m) runway, subsequently hitting a pole (possibly MM)."
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:06 AM

This is from the NHL.com article... looks like 1980



NHL.com tends to either word things very wrong or their writers misunderstand what they are analyzing. It looks like that particular plane they were on was built in 1993 but the model of aircraft was first introduced in 1980 with production ending in 2002. Since 1980, there have been 7 crashes out of a total of 178 built.

This from an aviation news site..."Russian news printed a witness report of the ATCO working the flight - he states that the airplane seemed to have power problems on ground already, accelerating very slowly and not leaving the ground until after the end of (3000m) runway, subsequently hitting a pole (possibly MM)."



If that is the case, then maintenance records (if any) will be heavily examined.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:06 AM

Brad McCrimmon is gone.

(Death confirmations are pouring out now)
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